#1
Wasn't sure where to put this but...

I have a strat type guitar, and break strings very often! I thought it would be easier to keep my backplate off after I started fiddling around for ages trying to get the ball of a severed string out from my bridge. Now, I've heard from a few people that sometimes you'll get an electric shock while playing without the cover, yet for the last three years I've never experienced this. What's going on?
#2
Nah you're fine to have the backplate off.

I have many floyd rose guitars most of them dont have the backplate since i adjust springs everytime they get restrung so its a pain to put them on and off all the time!

Dunno where the electric shock thing is coming from unless the guitar isnt grounded or something else.
Last edited by coolstoryangus at Jul 6, 2011,
#3
It doesn't matter whether it's on or off. I took the covers off both of my strats long ago and never bothered to put them back on.

If you get shocked then it's due to something else other than your guitar. Sometimes older amps with the 2 prong power cables can give you a shock if the power connector isn't in the plug the right way. My bassman will do this, and you can get a shock if you get close to a mic or touch the two inputs on the front face, but I've never been shocked through my guitar.
#4
Huh... the dude who just fixed my guitar up is talking a load of rubbish then?

He's been playing for the best part of fifty years, are you guys sure there's no truth in this?
#5
If you trust his judgement so much, why do you have to ask?
I've never been shocked by having my back plate off on the MANY trem equipped guitars i've owned/own...
#6
The guitar uses passive circuitry, thus if you are ever shocked then the culprit is not the guitar, but something else entirely. The guitar is merely the bridge between yourself and the amplifier or the power that it's connected to, so the guitar backplate would be the least of your worries.

Furthermore, the backplate only covers the trem block, claw, and springs. All of which are connected to the bridge on the top of the guitar, so even if the plate was on you would still get a shock from some other point on the top of the guitar, again, making the backplate a useless matter.
#7
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If you trust his judgement so much, why do you have to ask?


I barley even know the guy, he offered to fix the neck after a gig.
#8
on a strat the backplate is useless, on a guitar where it covers the electronics I like to have it on to keep the dust out, otherwise its real easy for the pots to get dirty
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#9
If someone is receiving electric shocks, the problem is either the amp or faulty wiring at the outlet they are plugging it into. Either way, they should not use that amp/outlet combo until BOTH have been checked by an electrician.

Some claim that leaving the backplate off a Strat results in better tone. This is a load of crap. It has never been proven in a double blind test, and never will. That being said, there is no harm either in leaving it off if you like.
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#11
EVH would say it doesn't matter, so theres your answer
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#13
Ive had the backplates off of my strat for a while, I never really bothered to put it back on. On my Ibanez RG350, the backplate has specific cutouts in it so you dont need to unscrew all 6 screws to adjust the trem claw, so I leave it on. Its all a matter of personal taste/convenience. I had the same problem you did, so I went out and bought some GraphTech string saver saddles. They worked like a charm, and theyre about 40 bucks or so. Havent broken a string in about a year on my strat, and Ive got an aggresive picking style.
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The guitar uses passive circuitry, thus if you are ever shocked then the culprit is not the guitar, but something else entirely. The guitar is merely the bridge between yourself and the amplifier or the power that it's connected to, so the guitar backplate would be the least of your worries.

Furthermore, the backplate only covers the trem block, claw, and springs. All of which are connected to the bridge on the top of the guitar, so even if the plate was on you would still get a shock from some other point on the top of the guitar, again, making the backplate a useless matter.

the reason you don't get shocked by the guitar, is not because guitar is passive. with a bad power cord on the amp (2 prong) without a proper ground connection, the metal "ground" parts of your guitar~amp is NOT at 0v. your microphone will be around 0v, and your other gear will be 0v. the difference in potential (which is voltage) result in a shock. your body when playing this guitar will not be at 0v, and when you touch a metal object that has good connection to earth (0v) then electrons will rush into YOU because your potential is more positive than the earth, you feel a shock. you feel like the guitar isn't causing the shock because you're always touching the strings. the strings are charged and your body is also charged.


that said, backplate on/off will not matter. guitar strings and the tremolo block/springs are electrically connected via contact points. what does that mean? if you're getting shocked by the tremolo block/springs, you should be shocked by the strings too... so there's no point to put the back plate ON if your strings are energized. does it matter if you put the backplate on/off? no. in my guitar builds, i dont put it on because i dont want to shell out $5 for a replacement and 6 screws.
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#17
i thought it belonged in the case.
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Oh, and for future reference, Hendrix had his backplate off too. :3

But Hendrix is dead so clearly it was dangerous!
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#19
What Shot said. If there is voltage on the trem, it's also on the strings.
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#20
I've heard people say they get less feedback with the plate off (they heard it too, and didn't believe it but they tried it and it was true) I don't know how true it is, but it sort of makes sense, if the trem cavity has the cover on there it would resonate at certain frequencies, which could cause more feedback.
I've never tried it though

There is a very subtle tonal difference acoustically, but through an amp its not really noticeable.
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I've heard people say they get less feedback with the plate off (they heard it too, and didn't believe it but they tried it and it was true) I don't know how true it is, but it sort of makes sense, if the trem cavity has the cover on there it would resonate at certain frequencies, which could cause more feedback.
I've never tried it though

There is a very subtle tonal difference acoustically, but through an amp its not really noticeable.


Less feedback? That's the first time I'm hearing this.

I take my back plates off because I don't like the sound of my bass with the plate on... there's something of a "bass boom" with the plate on.
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#22
i just dont like drilling unnecessary holes into my guitar. i prefer 8-hole pickguard instead of 11. i dont drill the back plate because that's extra 6 holes jebus.
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