#1
Hi everyone,
I'm playing for the moment with a Marshall AVT50. I want to know which of Marshall's stacks has the most resembling sound as the AVT.
Thanks
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#4
Quote by AcousticMirror
the mg.

the avt100.

and a big box of poo.


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#5
Quote by AcousticMirror
the mg.

the avt100.

and a big box of poo.



This exactly (previous owner of an AVT)
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#6
Its a crap amp.
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#7
It sounds stupid, but mid range Marshalls are worse than the low end ones. The low end ones are built for practise amps and starter amps. And despite the MG getting a lot of stick, I think it's a good practise amp. It does capture the sound of a Marshall pretty well when you consider how cheap it is.

The mid range amps are somewhere in between. They're not really too good as they don't have a job parse. The MG's are starter amps. The higher end ones are for gigging and studio work. The mid range ones are just a bridge between the two. The only way I can describe it is this.

Think of it like a diamond. Buy the biggest diamond you can for as cheap as you can, and it's gunna be cut crap, it's not gunna be very clear or shiny and is pretty much a glass rock. Basically buying a diamond for the sake of it being a diamond. Spend as much as you can on a small diamond, and it's gunna be the complete opposite. Yeah it's small, but it'll be one of the best diamonds you'll ever see.

With amps, if you buy a big Marshall half stack as cheap as you can, it's gunna sound like crap. It's gunna be built to a lower standard. With amps like that, one way to spot them is the over advertisement of how much volume it has. The Fender Frontman 212R is the perfect example.

On the other side of the spectrum...
If you buy a small practise amp for as much as you would spend on the cheap Marshall, it's gunna be one hell of an amp. Yeah, you'll probably be lacking volume, but the tone is gunna be pretty badass.

Tl;dr

If you're buying a mid range Marshall, you're pretty much just buying the name.
Last edited by WholeLottaIzzy at Jul 8, 2011,
#8
There's plenty of old AVT and AVTX heads on the used market, as well as their predecessors, the Valvestates.

All pretty mediocre amps, but you can sometimes get them for very very cheap.
#10
Most people looking for a Marshall stack are actually trying to get away from the AVT sound.

What is it exactly about your AVT's tone that you wish to replicate?
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#12
Joke post?
From a thread asking if it is safe to tell someone the serial number on your amp:
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omg dont do it! he can hack your amp get the b00tiful t00b t0anz
#13
Quote by AcousticMirror
the mg.

the avt100.

and a big box of poo.












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#14
Quote by whitecrow9
I want to know which of Marshall's stacks has the most resembling sound as the AVT.

#16
Quote by AcousticMirror
the mg.

the avt100.

and a big box of poo.



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#17
I'd like to know what new car I can buy that will be as bad as a commie era Skoda.
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#18
i myself play a avt 150 combo and i disagree about it being bad and all. sure you shouldn't turn it up past 9 o'clock on the master volume and this is specifically for the od channel. it surely isn't the best around but people should quit jumping on that bandwagon. i bet 90% of the poster in this thread have never had an AVT/MG series. i haven't had the MG but my AVT has a pretty good clean tone and a decent overdrive on the said 9 o'clock, and i dare to say my amp beats at least a handfull of tube amp brands.

as for the topic: you should look for the AVT stack series.
#19
Quote by wolvenrick
i myself play a avt 150 combo and i disagree about it being bad and all. sure you shouldn't turn it up past 9 o'clock on the master volume and this is specifically for the od channel. it surely isn't the best around but people should quit jumping on that bandwagon. i bet 90% of the poster in this thread have never had an AVT/MG series. i haven't had the MG but my AVT has a pretty good clean tone and a decent overdrive on the said 9 o'clock, and i dare to say my amp beats at least a handfull of tube amp brands.

as for the topic: you should look for the AVT stack series.

So you can't turn it up more than a quarter on the master, but still it's a good amp? Wtf is this I don't even

And oh yeah, the MG and AVT (and assorted) models are just some of the most widely available amps (or were, in the case of the AVT), but nobody's ever tried one, huh? Do you even think before you post?

The cleans on them are crap - the only good thing about them is that they're clean, but they're boring and lifeless. Also easily boomy with humbuckers if you aren't careful.
The high-gain is crap - fizzy yet muddy, doesn't cut unless you dial it in to be ear-piercingly harsh. This is a full-fledged MG-tone right here.
Crunch tones can be nice enough, but are tricky to dial in in a band context.

The only thing good about these amps is that you can get them for amazingly low prices sometimes.
#20
I aint jumping on no bandwagon - i built the wagon and play in the band.
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Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


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#21
Quote by wolvenrick
i myself play a avt 150 combo and i disagree about it being bad and all. sure you shouldn't turn it up past 9 o'clock on the master volume and this is specifically for the od channel. it surely isn't the best around but people should quit jumping on that bandwagon. i bet 90% of the poster in this thread have never had an AVT/MG series. i haven't had the MG but my AVT has a pretty good clean tone and a decent overdrive on the said 9 o'clock, and i dare to say my amp beats at least a handfull of tube amp brands.

as for the topic: you should look for the AVT stack series.


Never owned one, but I repair amps for spare change. Did a 100 watt MG a few weeks ago. Saying that amp sounded like a Bag Of Poo is an insult to poo.
#22
I've never owned one, for good reason - I have ears.
I did have an 8100 in my jam room for a year or more - and it was running through an awesome Soldano 2x12. Biggest piece of crap I've ever had the misfortune of listening to. The main reason I bought a JCM900 "backup amp" was so that I would never have to jam with somebody with a Valvestate ever again. They are that bad.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
Last edited by Cathbard at Jul 9, 2011,
#23
Quote by wolvenrick
i myself play a avt 150 combo and i disagree about it being bad and all. sure you shouldn't turn it up past 9 o'clock on the master volume and this is specifically for the od channel. it surely isn't the best around but people should quit jumping on that bandwagon. i bet 90% of the poster in this thread have never had an AVT/MG series. i haven't had the MG but my AVT has a pretty good clean tone and a decent overdrive on the said 9 o'clock, and i dare to say my amp beats at least a handfull of tube amp brands.

as for the topic: you should look for the AVT stack series.


i had an avt100. it was not very good at all. and considering how much it cost me, it was terrible, considering at the moment you can get e.g. a traynor ycv50b for the same amount of money on thomann, give or take 20 quid.

people who don't own them... i don't see why not owning them is any impediment to making an informed decision (as long as you honestly have tried them). If you think they're shit you're not likely to buy one, are you?

Limiting any opinion to people who've owned the thing just skews opinions too much- it's pretty much limited to fanboys or people who've had one but hated it.

Pretty much like internet reviews sites.

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And oh yeah, the MG and AVT (and assorted) models are just some of the most widely available amps (or were, in the case of the AVT), but nobody's ever tried one, huh? Do you even think before you post?


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Quote by K33nbl4d3
I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

Quote by K33nbl4d3
Presumably because the CCF (Combined Corksniffing Forces) of MLP and Gibson forums would rise up against them, plunging the land into war.

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Et tu, br00tz?