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#1
I know there's some out there, just wondering if anyone knows more than Meshuggah(used to use Line 6 PODs into P.A. systems).
#2
i'm sure there are a lot of country, bluegrass, folk and jazz bands who don't use amp distortion
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Quote by Blompcube
i'm sure there are a lot of country, bluegrass, folk and jazz bands who don't use amp distortion


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#6
Well, if the BANDS> category on my Pocket POD is anything to go by: (I imagine these people use the POD occasionally rather than exclusively because these sounds are pretty wacky even if they're the sounds they actually use and not just imitations)

311
As I Lay Dying
Ash
Bumblefoot
Dboard Conf(?)
HawthornHts (Hawthorn Heights?)
Hoobastank
J McGorman
KSE
Maroon 5
P.O.D. (very funny)
Project 86
Razorlight
Sparta
Thursday
Vert Horizon
Volto

Err... yeah. Not heard most of them.
#7
And So I Watch You From Afar used one of the Blackstar distorion pedals into a single channel Marshall when I saw them live. The tone was a-freakin'-mazing too.
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#9
David Gilmour too right?
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#11
James or Kirk from Metallica used a Rat for a while, didn't they? Jack White uses a Big Muff...just some more popular names.
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#14
Don't think there is a JCM9002203...there is a JCM800 2203 though. The only single channel JCM900 out there is the SL-X, as far as I know.
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#16
The Killers (tubescreamer, Rat, etc.)
Coldplay (tubescreamer, Rat, etc.)
David Crowder Band (tubescreamer, Rat, etc.)
The Strokes (Visual Sound Jekyll and Hyde)
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Can't think of any really heavy guitarists or anyone who plays more than a crunchy rock sound though. Most of the really rocking guys and the heavier guys will be using amp distortion. It just sounds bigger.
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Quote by xSacrilegex
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well, they match up to what you specified

i think a lot of the distorted tones of the '70s that are on record came from pedals rather than amp dirt. bands were able to crank up their large amps on stage, but that was the only way to get an overdriven tone out of an amplifier in those days, until amps with master volumes started appearing. in the studio, cranking up a 100 watt tube amp wasn't really very practical - some people used to crank smaller amps in the studio, which can sound as huge as any 100 watt stack in that situation, and others used to use fuzz and overdrive pedals.

that's generally the reason why so many bands from that era sounded so different live to how they sounded in the studio.
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#18
The black keys use amp distortion. Dan just likes to use fuzz a lot.

Also I think Jimmy Page plugged straight into some kind of pre/poweramp then went straight into the soundboard on the song Black Dog.
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Quote by grungebaby
The black keys use amp distortion. Dan just likes to use fuzz a lot.

Also I think Jimmy Page plugged straight into some kind of pre/poweramp then went straight into the soundboard on the song Black Dog.


Yeah i heard that too, apparently a famous Beatles song which doesn't come to mind was also recorded with a mixer and had to use two preamps in series to help the cooling? something like that
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Quote by xSacrilegex
I know there's some out there, just wondering if anyone knows more than Meshuggah(used to use Line 6 PODs into P.A. systems).

As far as I'm concerned, that is amp distortion, since they weren't using a physical amp to plug it into, thus they couldn't get amp distortion in the first place...

They're using the POD as their amp (preamp)...
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#21
Oh Derek, you're such a stickler for detail.

Shut up.
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Oh Derek, you're such a stickler for detail.

Shut up.

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Quote by LaidBack
And So I Watch You From Afar used one of the Blackstar distorion pedals into a single channel Marshall when I saw them live. The tone was a-freakin'-mazing too.



you sir, have good taste.
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Quote by stykerwolf
Yeah i heard that too, apparently a famous Beatles song which doesn't come to mind was also recorded with a mixer and had to use two preamps in series to help the cooling? something like that


That's right. Revolution 1 is recorded straight into the mixer. They used early solid state amps too. VOX made a series of ss amps with effects and Hey Bulldog is one of the songs recorded that way.

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#26
Quote by LaidBack
Jack White uses a Big Muff...just some more popular names.

I think he also pushes the hell out of his Silvertones (or Swarts more recently?).
#27
How can we forget the Red Hot Chili Peppers?

Also, I'm not entirely sure, but Incubus, given Einziger's crazy pedal board, may not use amp distortion at all.
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#28
Quote by stykerwolf
Yeah i heard that too, apparently a famous Beatles song which doesn't come to mind was also recorded with a mixer and had to use two preamps in series to help the cooling? something like that

Revolution.
They DI'd the guitars into the mixing console and had to send the signal through two mic preamps in series to stop it from overheating.
#29
Quote by ethan_hanus
Ian from Billy Talent uses a Marshall JCM900 2203 and pushes that sucker into power tube saturation territory for his gain.



Maybe as a double track or layering in the studio, but live Ian uses custom Stephenson amps 60watters from memory.
and they have 3 channels, so he uses all amp distortion except for solo's he has a Tech 21 Comptortion, and a zvex wooly mammoth
#30
Frank Gambale used to use a digital preamp into a very powerful rackmount power amp, but I believe he has gone back to regular amplifiers these days.
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Sublime used a Boss Os-2 pedal...
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#32
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David Gilmour too right?

He doesn't use a Pod type thing straight into the PA, which is what the TS is asking. He uses things like big muffs and fuzz faces to get his distortion but it is sanitised by running them into a Hiwatt tube head.
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#33
Quote by Cathbard
He doesn't use a Pod type thing staright into the PA which is what the TS is asking. He uses things like big muffs and fuzz faces to get his distortion but it is sanitised by running them into a Hiwatt tube head.



J.J. French and Eddie Ojeda of Twisted Sister now do the same thing. French said in a recent interview that he shows up at a gig with two guitars, a wireless setup and a POD. This after spending countless thousands of dollars on vintage amplifiers over the years.
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Also, I'm not entirely sure, but Incubus, given Einziger's crazy pedal board, may not use amp distortion at all.


Pretty sure he uses Mesa amps (Trem-o-verbs I think?) If not, Certain Shade of Green is the greatest Mesa simulation ever.
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#36
This thread. I don't even...


Just because a guitarist uses a dirt pedal doesn't mean they don't need the amps distortion as well. Have you thought about what that signal would sound like if the amp was removed and it was guitar > pedal > PA?

Some of the guitarists mentioned certainly would count but I think guys like Frusciante, Gilmore, etc would not have their signature sound without their amps

Quote by NeXEkho
Well, if the BANDS> category on my Pocket POD is anything to go by: (I imagine these people use the POD occasionally rather than exclusively because these sounds are pretty wacky even if they're the sounds they actually use and not just imitations)

311
As I Lay Dying
Ash
Bumblefoot
Dboard Conf(?)
HawthornHts (Hawthorn Heights?)
Hoobastank
J McGorman
KSE
Maroon 5
P.O.D. (very funny)
Project 86
Razorlight
Sparta
Thursday
Vert Horizon
Volto

Err... yeah. Not heard most of them.



This is pretty failed logic too. Because there is a preset on your toy for these bands then that means they must not use traditional amps? I can tell you 311, KSE and POD use amps. Just because they are on the Pod does not mean they use them (Pods).
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Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
Some of the guitarists mentioned certainly would count but I think guys like Frusciante, Gilmore, etc would not have their signature sound without their amps

that's a good point - not using an amp to get your distortion does not mean that the amp is irrelevant, because all amps have a certain sonic signature that is unique to that model that nothing is going to cancel out or cover up, even if you want it to.

this is the same reason why everyone says "what you really need is a new amp" when someone makes a thread saying "my distorted tone sucks, what distortion pedal/pickups/guitar should i buy to fix it, btw my amp is a <insert cheap amp here>"
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#38
Sonic Youth use Klon Centaurs into clean Fender amps
Wilco use Crowther Hotcakes into clean AC30's
The National use Centaurs into Penn Bassman copies
Radiohead use pretty much any overdrive pedal imaginable.
Most of alternative/indie rock is built around pedal distortion, actually.

Quote by Reincaster
Also, I'm not entirely sure, but Incubus, given Einziger's crazy pedal board, may not use amp distortion at all.


I remember reading an interview with Einziger and he said he mostly uses a cranked Marshall head for his distortion. I think his crazy pedalboard is mostly delays and modulations.
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#40
Quote by LaidBack
And So I Watch You From Afar used one of the Blackstar distorion pedals into a single channel Marshall when I saw them live. The tone was a-freakin'-mazing too.



Are you referring to the band from Ireland? If so, they are one of very few bands that gave me chills up my spine whilst seeing them live. Awesome band.
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