#1
When you walk in a music store, what do you want to see?

Do you want all the amps in one area, do you want each individual product line to be separated?

Do you want to be greeted at the door? Do you want employees that know what they are talking about?

Do you just want to be left alone and play?

In smaller non-chain stores what kind of product lineup do you need to see in order to take the store seriously?

Please answer some of these questions and any other ideas you have to share.
#2
I'm pretty sure UG isn't intended for marketing stats.

Quote by localmusic
When you walk in a music store, what do you want to see?


Cheap used gear.


Do you want all the amps in one area, do you want each individual product line to be separated?


Not important



Do you want to be greeted at the door?


Sure

Do you want employees that know what they are talking about?


Obviously?



Do you just want to be left alone and play?


Doesn't everyone?


In smaller non-chain stores what kind of product lineup do you need to see in order to take the store seriously?


Not important
#3
When I'm i a big store, all I want is to have a nice overview, that shouldn't mean amps and guitars have to be sperated, but if you need to find something, you don't have to look for over half an hour, keep different instruments (bass-guitar-drums-piano) in different places, not all together.

In a small shop, all I care about is a friendly owner who likes to talk about music and always has a great story about his time on the road (at least that's what I like in the music store I go to).

Fact is that when you're in a big store, it's like in a supermarket, you just want to look at stuff and get what you need, maybe even things you don't...

But when in a small store, you wanna talk music try out different stuff and get a descent explanation or even tips when playing or on how to use the equipment (not that you'll have to follow those, but with like multi-effects or something, this can come in handy). Back when I bought my DL4, the owner had been working on it all day to make it sound exactly as an 80's echoplex he had lying around...
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#4
I want get interested in what I see when I enter a music store, the desire to proceed browsing the store.

In my local store there's guitars almost everywhere, amps in one place, keyboards and pianos in one area and basses on a wall.

I don't want to be greeted everytime I walk into their store, it would be kinda awkward. And why wouldn't I want the employees to be able to help me and give me the information I'm looking for? Instruments are quite a big purchase and I want somebody who doesn't sell me that which I don't want or tell me to buy things I don't want.

Yes, but I want the employees to be easy to approach. And they better not watch me while I play or walking around in the store.

Nothing big really, there's plenty in the local store I'm talking about in this post, they have Gibsons', Fenders, Epiphones', ESPs' and the usual.
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#5
Quote by localmusic
When you walk in a music store, what do you want to see?

A wide selection of various guitars, amps, pedals and accessories.

Do you want all the amps in one area, do you want each individual product line to be separated?

Not important.

Do you want to be greeted at the door? Do you want employees that know what they are talking about?

Not important to be greeted at the door, but I would love to talk to people who can help me find what I want if I have questions

Do you just want to be left alone and play?

Yes, unless they want to tell me how godly I am and that I resemble a yong Steve Vai.

In smaller non-chain stores what kind of product lineup do you need to see in order to take the store seriously?

ENGL!

Please answer some of these questions and any other ideas you have to share.


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#6
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When you walk in a music store, what do you want to see?
Hot, easy girls age 16-24 with vast musical knowledge and no boyfriends

Do you want all the amps in one area, do you want each individual product line to be separated?
Don't care

Do you want to be greeted at the door? Do you want employees that know what they are talking about?
Only by hot easy girls

Do you just want to be left alone and play?
Yeah, or in a private booth with a hot easy girl

In smaller non-chain stores what kind of product lineup do you need to see in order to take the store seriously?
Not line6 spiders
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#7
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When you walk in a music store, what do you want to see?

Hundreds of naked women surrounding a golden throne, in which I sit and let them feed me beef jerky.

Do you want all the amps in one area, do you want each individual product line to be separated?

It would be cool too make everything organized and easy to find, but it isn't important, since all I have to do is say what I want to try and the naked women will bring it to me.

Do you want to be greeted at the door? Do you want employees that know what they are talking about?

Only if the door greeters are more naked women. They don't have to know what they're talking about, because they are not allowed to speak. I tell them what I want, they find it and bring it to me.

Do you just want to be left alone and play?

Nope. I want the naked women to be pleasuring me as I play. It helps the fluidity of my riffs and solos.

In smaller non-chain stores what kind of product lineup do you need to see in order to take the store seriously?

A large selection of custom PRS and Carvin guitars. Also, if there are no naked women, I won't shop there.

Please answer some of these questions and any other ideas you have to share.


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#8
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When you walk in a music store, what do you want to see?

Jesus himself playing through a mesa rectifier with amazing hot angels that do whatever we please sitting on his lap.

Do you want all the amps in one area, do you want each individual product line to be separated?
SEGREGATION IS BAD

Do you want to be greeted at the door? Do you want employees that know what they are talking about?

Only greeted at the door if Jesus is the one who wishes to talk to me, and grants me the power to attract any woman I wish. And of course he needs to know what he is talking about music wise! Hes Jesus!

Do you just want to be left alone and play?

Naw man Jesus can give me some good pointerss, and those angels can help me out *cough cough*

In smaller non-chain stores what kind of product lineup do you need to see in order to take the store seriously?

Anything that Jesus would be playing, duh
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#9
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When you walk in a music store, what do you want to see?

Naked chicks.

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Do you want all the amps in one area, do you want each individual product line to be separated?

I want naked chicks.

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1) Do you want to be greeted at the door? 2) Do you want employees that know what they are talking about?

1) By a naked chick? Yeah, otherwise I don't care.
2) No matter long as the employee is a) a chick and b) naked.

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Do you just want to be left alone and play?

...with myself? Depends on how hot the naked chicks are.

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In smaller non-chain stores what kind of product lineup do you need to see in order to take the store seriously?

I refuse to view human beings (such as naked chicks) as "product". Seriously, what kind of sicko are you?

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Please answer some of these questions and any other ideas you have to share.

I've got one suggestion. It starts with an "n" and ends with "aked chicks". You figure it out, champ.
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#10
I see a pattern forming.
Guitar/bass/mandolin stuff:
PRS SE Custom 24
PRS SE Paul Allender
Martin DCX1E
Squire Start
Memphis Bass
Johnson Savannah mando

Amp/effects/misc:
Digitech RP1000
Line 6 Spider Valve 212
Toneport Studio KB37


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#11
+1 to the Naked Hot Chicks, but I'll also be serious :p
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When you walk in a music store, what do you want to see?

It's gotta be tidy and well laid out

Do you want all the amps in one area, do you want each individual product line to be separated?

To be honest I'd prefer shops to just sort things by price, I hate having to check every guitar in the style I'm looking at to maybe find 1 or 2 in the correct price range for my budget, it wouldn't have to labelled, just ya know.... sorted

Do you want to be greeted at the door? Do you want employees that know what they are talking about?

Greeted not really... but I think it's essential that employees know what they're talking about, it makes or breaks a music store for me

Do you just want to be left alone and play?

honestly I'd love to be left alone but realistically I wouldn't complain if you left me alone for an hour and then kicked me out if i wasn't gonna buy anything

In smaller non-chain stores what kind of product lineup do you need to see in order to take the store seriously?

I'd love to see more than 2 brands of guitar other than budget ones (an issue with the 3 stores in my city) A few brands of amps, decent budget ones and a few higher end ones. But to be honest it's not what I want to see it's more what I'd like the store to do, I'd like the store to order stuff in for me to try out without me having to buy it (another issue with my local stores) and stock things I buy regularly

Please answer some of these questions and any other ideas you have to share.
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#12
When you walk in a music store, what do you want to see?

An endless mountain of amps. Vintage, new, used, tube, solid state. YOU NAME IT. Followed by a wall of guitars ranging in quality as well as used ones as well.

Do you want all the amps in one area, do you want each individual product line to be separated?

Having designated areas for each type of equipment sounds decent

Do you want to be greeted at the door? Do you want employees that know what they are talking about?

Don't care, and it doesn't matter. Most places have employees that are knowledgeable about what they need to know. But every now and then you can walk into a GC and walk out with a good piece of gear for stupid cheap because of dumb staff.

Do you just want to be left alone and play?


Oh yeah, GC people will sit there and talk with me forever.

In smaller non-chain stores what kind of product lineup do you need to see in order to take the store seriously?

Something other than Spider and/or MG series amps.
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#13
as somebody posted earlier, guitar stores are not made for a good number of UGers.

if you are looking to be prosperous, you need to sell things that a lot of us UGers don't like.

99% of business is people who dont know a damn about anything and get oogled into the color of the guitar or the lights on the inside of the amp.

the 1% that a lot of us want are $2-4k amps, an extreme variety of different brands of effects with a good number being more expensive side. guitars that are of a good variety of mediocre to high end.

thats my first $.02

here is my second:


When you walk in a music store, what do you want to see?

some high end amps, isolation rooms are nice, guitars that you can reach yourself so you dont have to have and employee up your rear the entire time.

Do you want all the amps in one area, do you want each individual product line to be separated?

i think GC does it right in my eyes *gasp* puts the louder/louder higher gain stuff where people like to dime it in a seperate area (as they call it the vault), thus the guy trying to hear the champion 600 he is demoing can at least be heard over the 15 year kid diming a 6505 in the iso room.

Do you want to be greeted at the door? Do you want employees that know what they are talking about?

being greeted at the door to some degree is very imortant for any store, expecially including a guitar store, where people seek more guidance than a shopper would at Target.

Do you just want to be left alone and play?

yes. if i have somebody on my rear too much, especially if he is doing so rudely, i will just complete the transaction with another salesman. yea its not the nicest thing to do, but hey, whatcha expect.

In smaller non-chain stores what kind of product lineup do you need to see in order to take the store seriously?

oh god, the clostest three guitar stores here one carries dean (but doesn't sell any amplifiers other than the dean ones that come in the amp pack), the second one ibanez, but only the lower end models (think <$500), and the other which is pretty big in comparison, Fender, Squier, and a little bit of Jackson, but have a nice used selection.

i will not take a store seriously if they have less than 3-4 major brands of guitars and amp wise at least a step beyond beginner.
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#14
I'll tell you want I don't want to see:

1. Guys who bring their girlfriends to music stores for the sole purpose of showing off poorly played songs on expensive gear.

2. Oil faced teenagers who think music stores are playgrounds (it's worse when they travel in packs)

3. People who go to music stores for the sole purpose of showing off their guitar skills, which is characterized by guys who bring entire CD collections to the store with a CD player and jam non-stop for hours, after which they pack up and leave without buying anything at all.

In general I hate when people go to music stores and do anything but buy or genuinely test out gear. Of course it's hard to tell whether someone is actually there to buy or test something out, but usually if you see the same people there regularly who never buy anything I would probably go up to them and try to sell them something until they leave.
#15
quail makes some good points

however, i'll qualify my response a little more.

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#16
I wanna see dust, brown paper bags, general disarray, hand-written price tags, loads of frayed tweed and tolex, ads for drummers desperately wanted, and guitarists available.

I wanna smell old amps and guitars, and a slight aroma of weed.
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#17
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quail makes some good points

however, i'll qualify my response a little more.

yvonne strahovski swooning over my badass (in my head) playing.



Never! She's mine!
#18
this forum really need an emoticon of one smiley smacking another smiley in the face with a glove...

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#19
Here's my marketing data--musicians love feeling like they "found" the gear, not like it's sold to them. All music shops should be crammed to the gills with as much cluttered gear as possible, only loosely organized into sections. I want to actually take the time to hunt through everything when I go into a music shop, not have it layed out like a brick and morter version of a catalog. Adventure I say! Adventure!

No tidyness, no open floor space beyond that necessary to try the gear out, and a ton of used gear, parts, and other affordable and impulse stuff other than strings and pics.


And lots of hot girls.
#20
Do you want all the amps in one area, do you want each individual product line to be separated?


Okay, A good layout is guitars on hangers with amps underneath, stacked no more than 2 high. sorted by price and shape/style is a must. keep the fender styles together, keep the gibbos together, keep the mode modern shapes together.


Do you want to be greeted at the door? Do you want employees that know what they are talking about?

No, being greeted to me is too high pressure, to me it screams, Buy something. having a freindly demeanour and a knowledge of the products is good enough.
Having someone keep their eyes on forums would be good, a good way fo seeing whats hot and not, also, not being afraid to say, sorry, i dont know, but ill find out for you.


Do you just want to be left alone and play?

Yes, but then again beginners may need outling on the features , advantages and disadvantages of guitars and amps. booths are a good idea, but if thats not possible, set up an area to take amps to in a back room or stock area for testing.

In smaller non-chain stores what kind of product lineup do you need to see in order to take the store seriously?

you have to know that just because you may like kustom, not everyone does, ( only an example) as long as there is a nice range, and i mean range, not a fender and a marshall amp, you need to be able to convert people to brands, i dont stock fender, but this blah blah blah is a good guitar, made in japan, better stock pickups e.t.c
if your in the uk, find some brands that are hard to com by, stock a few of them, as well as some more popular brands. people will travel fromm far to ry out the new haegstrom if they are considering them.


hope that helped.
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#21
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Here's my marketing data--musicians love feeling like they "found" the gear, not like it's sold to them. All music shops should be crammed to the gills with as much cluttered gear as possible, only loosely organized into sections. I want to actually take the time to hunt through everything when I go into a music shop, not have it layed out like a brick and morter version of a catalog. Adventure I say! Adventure!

No tidyness, no open floor space beyond that necessary to try the gear out, and a ton of used gear, parts, and other affordable and impulse stuff other than strings and pics.


+1.
#22
Hot damn, if Quailman ain't got it right, I don't know who'll have.

Also, is there any incentive involved?


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Here's my marketing data--musicians love feeling like they "found" the gear, not like it's sold to them. All music shops should be crammed to the gills with as much cluttered gear as possible, only loosely organized into sections. I want to actually take the time to hunt through everything when I go into a music shop, not have it layed out like a brick and morter version of a catalog. Adventure I say! Adventure!

No tidyness, no open floor space beyond that necessary to try the gear out, and a ton of used gear, parts, and other affordable and impulse stuff other than strings and pics.


And lots of hot girls.


If you're gonne be that definitive about market research, you're gonna need to quote your sources, your sample, timing that the research was conducted and the respondent demographic.

Otherwise, its just another opinion.
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#23
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this forum really need an emoticon of one smiley smacking another smiley in the face with a glove...


have you tried it's cooler than a slap with a glove :p
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#24
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Hot damn, if Quailman ain't got it right, I don't know who'll have.

Also, is there any incentive involved?


If you're gonne be that definitive about market research, you're gonna need to quote your sources, your sample, timing that the research was conducted and the respondent demographic.

Otherwise, its just another opinion.



It's called a joke. See how the TS just joined to post the thread and is clearly collecting data from a potential customer base?

Also, stop taking market research so seriously, the whole field is also a joke
#25
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It's called a joke. See how the TS just joined to post the thread and is clearly collecting data from a potential customer base?

Also, stop taking market research so seriously, the whole field is also a joke


Are you seriously serious?

I wouldn't stop him from try, but I'm definitely withholding responses until i see an incentive.
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#26
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Are you seriously serious?


About it all being a joke, but not about you taking it too seriously on UG.

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About it all being a joke, but not about you taking it too seriously on UG.

Though I do like to earnestly bitch about TV shoes, films, and lots of products absolutely ruined by focus groups.


Meh, I'm usually the one conducting it, and I don't use the products I work on... so

yeah... I do know I take somethings a little too seriously on UG.
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#30
amps lined up all over so that they r easily accessible. and i would love to have pedals lined up so that i can try them out rather than having to go over, have an employee pull one out of the box, and stand over me while i play it. u should be able to plug into an amp, click on a pedal and play it. easy as that. and dont put the nice guitars so high up on the wall that u need a ladder. thats like saying "im too good for u, u can't play me"
#31
Gorgeous naked chicks (probably a bit thicker than most of the guys here prefer) aside, here are my more serious answers.
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When you walk in a music store, what do you want to see?
Brands other than Dean, Schecter, and Fender which seems to be all anybody around here carries. I want it to be maneuverable, tidy, and maybe have some hot posters on the walls.

Do you want all the amps in one area, do you want each individual product line to be separated?
Guitar amps near the guitar, bass amps near the basses, keyboard amps with the keyboards. However, the tube stuff and stacks should be in a isolated, soundproofed room for people to try stuff out in.

Brands can be segregated, but please put the lower end stuff on the lowest racks, then next price range up, etc. Though I don't want to need a 5 step ladder to pick out an Ibanez JS1000 like at every GC I've ever been to.


Do you want to be greeted at the door? Do you want employees that know what they are talking about?
Greeting at first visit, after that I'm good. I want the store run by an instrumentalist who is well rounded in at least 3 instruments (say, bass, keyboards, drums). Almost every music store in my area is run by a drummer and there are no isolation rooms for any instrument but acoustic guitar, so you can't turn anything up.

Do you just want to be left alone and play?
Yes, but it's cool to have somebody check in from time to time.

In smaller non-chain stores what kind of product lineup do you need to see in order to take the store seriously?
Gibson, LTD Deluxe/ESP guitars, Jacksons with thru-body necks, similar Ibanez models, Paul Reed Smith, high-end Deans, some obscure brands or stuff from local luthiers. I don't want to see a Line6 spider that isn't a valve, I don't want to see a Schecter Hellraiser or Syn sig, and I don't want to see a Bronze series BC Rich. Basically, if I see high-end or intermediate level products from at least 3 brands there, I'll take it more seriously. I also like to see Egnater, Randall, Mesa/Boogie, and Soldano products. Maybe Rivera.


Please answer some of these questions and any other ideas you have to share.
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