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#1
Hi everyone,

So, it may be a silly question but... why are concerts that much loud ?
When you go to a concert (at least that's what I do) you better bring your earplugs. Otherwise it'd be too loud and you can't fully enjoy the music. It may also damage your ears.
So why don't they just put the volume at a correct level ?
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Because everyone has to hear the band. If they turned the volume down, it would make it hard for people in the back to hear.
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People absorb sound. They raise the volume levels to counter this problem.
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Because if its too quiet then peoples heads cant explode from the awesomeness/utter failure, depending on whos playing
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In addition to the logical responses everyone made of hearing and bodies absorbing sound, it just SOUNDS better loud. There's more air moving and some people really like to feel it disrupting their internal organs.
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#8
There is a happy medium and a good band knows this. I have seen shows in big arenas and amphitheaters (Rush twice and Pearl Jam) and it was loud but not ridiculous. However, I seen Alter Bridge at a little venue in Knoxville and I was very close to the stage and the opening bands where actually too loud. The sound was clipping out it was so loud. I was right next to the speaker wall on the right of the stage so my right ear was ringing for about 4 days.
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I know what you mean, it irks me when the volume is way to loud for the venue.
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You have to sufficiently damage your ears first. Go a couple of times without earplugs, stand right next to the speakers, and you'll be set.

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What. Sometimes the pit has just the most stupid understanding of the world and logic.

I agree though, some gigs it's just - why is this so loud? To the extent i've been at the back, and it's just unpleasant.

I don't want to bring ear plugs, but i don't want to be deafened. I agree that it can sound amazing loud, but - it doesn't have to be deafening. Loud at the right level, not above it.
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#15
Dude, the louder the better

If you can hear the crowd sing along and the singer it is perfect.
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have you ever played a rock or metal song at a low volume? BORING!

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#17
If they have the volume at what would be considered "normal", the crowd would end up hearing themselves with no music. Not only that, but everyone at the venue needs to be able to hear what's being played well. Unless they find a way to play softer so everyone can still hear the music over themselves, have fun with your ear plugs.
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#22
You don't want to not be able to hear the band because of the crowd... at one of my gigs a few weeks ago the crowd was too loud for my guitar solo.. i wish the whole band was a little louder and we were quite loud...
#23
I'm loving the responses here but I have to agree with them being too loud. Go to a jazz gig and it's at a nice volume. Everyone can hear it, and you can talk to people during without disrupting anything, and it becomes much more intimate. You'll notice this in any jazz video where there's a brilliant solo, and the crowd claps, and you can hear them. You wouldn't be able to hear the crowd clapping/yelling during a LOG show.

That said though, I always thought it was because metal isn't much of an 'intimate' performance, and more of a 'bust your face' thing, so it makes a lot of sense to just throttle people with sound.
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If you can hear the crowd sing along and the singer it is perfect.

I wanna kill the crowd when they sing along. It's like... you sons of bitches, I'm not paying you to sing.

It's like that episode of the Simpsons where they're at Spinal Tap's concert, and so everyone is standing and cheering. But Otto is sitting there yelling at them to sit down cause they're ruining it for everybody. I'm like Otto.
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I wanna kill the crowd when they sing along. It's like... you sons of bitches, I'm not paying you to sing.

It's like that episode of the Simpsons where they're at Spinal Tap's concert, and so everyone is standing and cheering. But Otto is sitting there yelling at them to sit down cause they're ruining it for everybody. I'm like Otto.



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If I want a crowd free listening experience I stick on a CD.

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Fair stuff.

I suppose at something like (but not at all limited to, only a similar situation) a jazz concert would suck to have a load of drunk idiots wailing :P

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In addition to the logical responses everyone made of hearing and bodies absorbing sound, it just SOUNDS better loud. There's more air moving and some people really like to feel it disrupting their internal organs.


Unless you're in a bar or a small venue where cranking it up makes it impossible to get the levels right, then bands that might have sounded decent sound like a muddy, incomprehensible mess. Hell, I've even heard it happen in medium sized venues with big acts--who needs to hear the vox anyway right?


The proper volume level depends on the venue (as I just mentioned), the band, and the genre the band plays.


For example, quieter stage volume= tighter band = better listening experience most of the time. If the stage volume is loud enough to reaaaly bleed out into FOH (in a decent sized venue), the band has a pretty good chance of sounding sloppy. Of course that's not a bad thing if I'm listening to some sludgy stoner rock or some punk, I just don't want it if I'm listening to classic rock or an indie band with a dozen musicians in it.

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Because everyone has to hear the band. If they turned the volume down, it would make it hard for people in the back to hear.
They should have thought of that when buying cheaper tickets.
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#30
I'm not sure how much this counts for, but have you ever been to a show where you can actually feel the music? In my opinion, it's a part of the experience.
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drums are loud

the rest of the band has to be loud in order to be heard. that's my expirience at least


Drums are as dynamic an instrument as anything else
Besides, well-aimed or in ear monitors can let everyone hear without a lot of volume, and no extra volume going toward the audience.
#32
Well, sometimes they have more speakers halfway through the standing room in stadiums that the people in the back can hear as well. If both sets of speakers are at a reasonable level, then it would still make sense.
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If I want a crowd free listening experience I stick on a CD.


exactly. some bands even have parts where they let the crowd sing like the chorus of a song (megadeth did this with 'a tout le monde' and 'peace sells' when i saw them). if the crowd didn't sing, then it would just be an awkward moment for everyone lol
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It's like listening to Lamb of God at a low volume on your iPod. It just doesn't have the same "OOMPH!"

but it still has the annoyance and lack of music
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When you go to a concert (at least that's what I do) you better bring your earplugs. Otherwise it'd be too loud and you can't fully enjoy the music. It may also damage your ears.




You're saying that earplugs do not severely harm the music? You're a character.


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You're saying that earplugs do not severely harm the music? You're a character.


If you spend $20 on an ok pair, you get pretty even attenuation. I wouldn't say it's "severe," it's still far less than ideal though.


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Any place that big is going to have a nice line array system up front and staggered speakers throughout the venue to get some pretty even volume everywhere past the first rows.
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If you spend $20 on an ok pair, you get pretty even attenuation. I wouldn't say it's "severe," it's still far less than ideal though.


I prefer it being loud and unfiltered to cloggin my ears and getting that vacuum sound and isolation ear plugs give. But I never suffer from the music being too loud.
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