#1
So I've been on a Joe kick these days, and recently got caught up an purchased 4 recent back catalogue albums.

I really dig Joes style, and his focus on melody and color makes for a very palatable listening experience.

However, one thing I've noted about Joe, especially recently, is that many of his songs seem "jammy;" that is, it seems like he takes a few chord progressions and then just experiments by playing differnt modes over them to create a variety of sonic vibes.

I still dig this style, as it creates a good mood music, but then one has to start to think, "okay, am I paying to hear this guy noodle?" I know that there is some structure to his tunes (an indeed part of the experience is the intellectual factor of trying to discern the structure)

Do you think this style of songwriting is acceptable for an artist? Is it good value for your money? Do you find it entertaining?
#2
yes yes and yes

alot of song writing by people is noodling experiment and jammig til they fond something they like and make a song out of it

and dont worry about value for the money its only not worth it if you dont enjoy it

ahd i find it very entertaining
#3
IMO anything recent Satch after EOC has put out has been uninspired and bland. Most of what he does nowadays seems to be mediocre rock riffs with a lot of pentatonic wanking.

Compare these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPDppDWUOH4&feature=fvwrel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54cd0rVJR7Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMl3Mwqdz-0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_QxoRzxJYY

To these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1MKJYjpxIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBkQBIhiELI

Urgh...
#4
Quote by griffRG7321
IMO anything recent Satch after EOC has put out has been uninspired and bland. Most of what he does nowadays seems to be mediocre rock riffs with a lot of pentatonic wanking.

Compare these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPDppDWUOH4&feature=fvwrel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54cd0rVJR7Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMl3Mwqdz-0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_QxoRzxJYY

To these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1MKJYjpxIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBkQBIhiELI

Urgh...


The first group you posted is way too 80's. Granted there may have been less noodling, but overall the more modern vibe of the latter two videos makes them a preferable listening experience to me anyway. Nonetheless this still does not negate the fact that Joe does have a tendency to noodle, althought his signature "spacey" sound might bring enough to the table to compensate.
#7
^That was the 70's.
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#8
Joe kinda takes a jazz aspect in his music in the sense that he introduces the main melody (or head if you use jazz terms) and then tends to go off improvising only to return to the melody later during the song. Most songs have two different melodies, each providing a nice contrast from eachother. Most of his songs have a nice riff, then a chord progression with a catchy melody, then riff again, and then legato shred for 2 minutes. lol.