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#1
Anyone else sick of hearing about this thing?
"Virtually no one who is taught Relativity continues to read the Bible."

#4
I'll tell you what frustrates me about this "issue" and all the attention it's getting.

Our country, hell the entire global economy is dying of cancer. As it lies dying, spitting blood and convulsing, it is complaining of a headache.

The headache of course results from the cancer and the convulsions, and impending death is simply making it worse.

...and we're arguing with the nurse OVER A ****ING TYLENOL!!!!!
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#5
I'm done listening to how they can't agree with each other because they're all being assholes, but it's a damn important issue. Isn't August 3rd the final day?
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I'll tell you what frustrates me about this "issue" and all the attention it's getting.

Our country, hell the entire global economy is dying of cancer. As it lies dying, spitting blood and convulsing, it is complaining of a headache.

The headache of course results from the cancer and the convulsions, and impending death is simply making it worse.

...and we're arguing with the nurse OVER A ****ING TYLENOL!!!!!

Well aren't we optimistic
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#12
Well maybe this will work better:

THE ENTIRE HOUSE IS COLLAPSING UNDER ITS OWN WEIGHT BECAUSE OF TERMITES...

And the husband and wife are arguing about who is going to run to Wal-Mart to buy a flyswatter.

"Virtually no one who is taught Relativity continues to read the Bible."

#13


We can save the economy from cancer by doing absolutely nothing.
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Well maybe this will work better:

THE ENTIRE HOUSE IS COLLAPSING UNDER ITS OWN WEIGHT BECAUSE OF TERMITES...

And the husband and wife are arguing about who is going to run to Wal-Mart to buy a flyswatter.



I don't see a connection here
#15
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I don't see a connection here

That's because you're an idiot.
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That's because you're an idiot.


Really now?


The average weight of a termite is about 2.1 mg, how much termites would you think would be necessary for a house to actually collapse?

I bet more in size than the house is.
#17
I'm tired of our government being run by assholes. Republicans and Democrats citizens have already realized that both sides have to give and take if they want to fix the country. It's the politicians who don't have to worry about if they don't have a job. they get paid so much that you could last a lot longer unemployed than the average person.

I think we may as well cut their salary so they remember what their job is.
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Really now?


The average weight of a termite is about 2.1 mg, how much termites would you think would be necessary for a house to actually collapse?

I bet more in size than the house is.

The house doesn't collapse because of the weight of the termites.

The house collapses UNDER ITS OWN WEIGHT, which I already mentioned.

Like I said, I have my doubts about your ever being inducted to MENSA.
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I'm tired of our government being run by assholes. Republicans and Democrats citizens have already realized that both sides have to give and take if they want to fix the country. It's the politicians who don't have to worry about if they don't have a job. they get paid so much that you could last a lot longer unemployed than the average person.

I think we may as well cut their salary so they remember what their job is.

Exactly!

And why is it that it is automatically GAME OVER any time I attempt to have a conversation with a conservative?

If I express remotely liberal views I get the SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP response..

I wonder where that comes from? (Bill O'Reilly)
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The house doesn't collapse because of the weight of the termites.

The house collapses UNDER ITS OWN WEIGHT, which I already mentioned.

Like I said, I have my doubts about your ever being inducted to MENSA.



Then I don't see why would anyone worry about termites.

And a house collapsing under it own weight can't really exist, because it would collapse the moment/before it is built
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I am in this thread, yet I am not aware of the relevance of any of the posts to anything I have ever known.

Really?

Have you ever known anyone who has lost a job?

Have any of your dozens of relatives been among the 1:2 proportion to die of cancer?

Have you ever been to a house that is not in perfect condition?

Do you know what a metaphor is?
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#23
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Then I don't see why would anyone worry about termites.

And a house collapsing under it own weight can't really exist, because it would collapse the moment/before it is built


No man. The structure of the house has been weakened over time by termites eating the wooden supports in it.
So it gets to the point where it can't support itself and collapses under it's own weight.
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Exactly!

And why is it that it is automatically GAME OVER any time I attempt to have a conversation with a conservative?

If I express remotely liberal views I get the SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP response..

I wonder where that comes from? (Bill O'Reilly)

Look at their politicians. The Republicans don't give a shit about if the country defaults, or enough don't I should say. They'd rather **** over Obama at all costs. There are some Republican congressmen and senators who know what's going on.

It's not that people are conservative that makes them that way, it's that stupid people are attracted to conservative views. Just like self absorbed, arrogant people are attracted to liberal views. I know smart conservatives and others who are idiots but hide behind their political affiliation.

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Then I don't see why would anyone worry about termites.

And a house collapsing under it own weight can't really exist, because it would collapse the moment/before it is built

You've never seen wood eating termites apparently.
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#25
It's funny because the US doesn't have anything close to being identified as a debt "crisis". Neither does Britain.

It's an excuse for John Boehner and David Cameron to cut back on public services to allow greater tax breaks for the big firms and wealthy individuals.
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Really now?


The average weight of a termite is about 2.1 mg, how much termites would you think would be necessary for a house to actually collapse?

I bet more in size than the house is.
I'm not sure you get how termites work...

The little buggers eat wood. If you don't deal with them, sooner or later, your house collapses.

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It's funny because the US doesn't have anything close to being identified as a debt "crisis". Neither does Britain.
Because the debt being at 100% and 50% of their country's GDP isn't a crisis...

Don't be deluded.
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#27
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thats about south africa tho...which isnt poor at all.
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It's funny because the US doesn't have anything close to being identified as a debt "crisis". Neither does Britain.

It's an excuse for John Boehner and David Cameron to cut back on public services to allow greater tax breaks for the big firms and wealthy individuals.


It's not a debt crisis. It's a deficit problem... apparently.
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Really?

Have you ever known anyone who has lost a job?

Have any of your dozens of relatives been among the 1:2 proportion to die of cancer?

Have you ever been to a house that is not in perfect condition?

Do you know what a metaphor is?

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) No
4) Yes
5) Yes
#30
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It's not a debt crisis. It's a deficit problem... apparently.
Because the two are not related...
#31
It's not arguing over Tylenol, they're arguing over important stuff. If we default on our debt then we're screwed.

The best comparison is a due date for a credit card bill is coming up and a couple can't decide what they should cut out of their budget to pay it. The biggest country in the world can't just not pay their bills, and the argument about the debt ceiling is someone proposing to just raise how much we can legally borrow and borrow more to pay. This is rediculous because it's like suggesting to pay a credit card bill with another credit card.
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#32
So I think I read somewhere that military is 40% of the US budget? If that's true then why are we arguing over the little things instead of just trimming that, even temporarily?


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This is rediculous because it's like suggesting to pay a credit card bill with another credit card.


Wouldn't it be like paying off the bill with the same credit card, impossible?
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#33
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Because the debt being at 100% and 50% of their country's GDP isn't a crisis...

Don't be deluded.


It isn't. People, from governments to banks, are climbing over each other to buy US bonds. Like British government bonds, US bonds have a Triple AAA rating.

Judging by how the right-wing parties in both of those nations are reacting to the debt, it's pretty clear that they themselves aren't at all concerned about it. If they were, the Republicans would be pushing for cutting the military, ending the wars, pulling out of many of the foreign bases, and weakening the pharmaceutical patent protections to reduce medicare & medicaid spending by a large amount. They would be increasing revenue by just adding a few percent on the tax rate for top earners. They will be investigating and cracking down on tax evasion cases by firms like Genera Electric.

Britain would be doing the same, such as raising revenue and closing tax havens abroad and domestic. The coalition government isn't interested in that too.

I'm from Japan. Do you know how much debt we have? 225% of our GDP, and "cutting the deficit" hasn't even been the main issue at hand, especially now that Japan has to spend a lot more money to rebuild the North-East and fix the nuclear reactor crisis. People still buy our bonds even today.

What happens when you know that you have a debt crisis at hand is when the central banks are reacting by driving up interest rates. Japan, despite having the largest rate of debt to GDP, has one of the lowest interest rate in the world. The US and UK are pretty close too. As opposed to that, Zimbabwe has the highest. They're about to become the poorest country in the world because of their massive inflation, super-high interest rates, and massive debt (that they can't pay off).
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#35
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It isn't. People, from governments to banks, are climbing over each other to buy US bonds. Like British government bonds, US bonds have a Triple AAA rating.

Judging by how the right-wing parties in both of those nations are reacting to the debt, it's pretty clear that they themselves aren't at all concerned about it. If they were, the Republicans would be pushing for cutting the military, ending the wars, pulling out of many of the foreign bases, and weakening the pharmaceutical patent protections to reduce medicare & medicaid spending by a large amount. They would be increasing revenue by just adding a few percent on the tax rate for top earners. They will be investigating and cracking down on tax evasion cases by firms like Genera Electric.

Britain would be doing the same, such as raising revenue and closing tax havens abroad and domestic. The coalition government isn't interested in that too.

I'm from Japan. Do you know how much debt we have? 225% of our GDP, and "cutting the deficit" hasn't even been the main issue at hand, especially now that Japan has to spend a lot more money to rebuild the North-East and fix the nuclear reactor crisis. People still buy our bonds even today.


Yeah people are after our bonds now, but if we default on our bills our bonds are greatly devalued.
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Yeah people are after our bonds now, but if we default on our bills our bonds are greatly devalued.


They are after your bonds because they damn well know that you won't default.
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#37
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So I think I read somewhere that military is 40% of the US budget? If that's true then why are we arguing over the little things instead of just trimming that, even temporarily?


Wouldn't it be like paying off the bill with the same credit card, impossible?


Well, we are suggesting borrowing from another country to pay China. Also the reason we haven't cut the obvious (Social Security, Defense, and Medicair) is because those groups have huge lobbys and to cut Social Security or Medicair is to lose the elderly vote and to cut defense loses military vote and a lot of militant Republicans. We know what we need to cut, but noone wants to make a suggestion because they lose the votes of who these cuts affect. It's the problem with a democracy, everyone has to people please and can't do their job for fear of losing it.

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They are after your bonds because they damn well know that you won't default.


That's what the argument's over though. If we don't have this figured out by August 3rd we've defaulted. I'm sure we'll have it figured out on August 3rd, but that's the worry.
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#38
Last night on Craig Ferguson's show Geoff said that "it was so hot in Washington that the government had to install a fan on the debt ceiling."
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#39
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It isn't. People, from governments to banks, are climbing over each other to buy US bonds. Like British government bonds, US bonds have a Triple AAA rating.

Judging by how the right-wing parties in both of those nations are reacting to the debt, it's pretty clear that they themselves aren't at all concerned about it. If they were, the Republicans would be pushing for cutting the military, ending the wars, pulling out of many of the foreign bases, and weakening the pharmaceutical patent protections to reduce medicare & medicaid spending by a large amount. They would be increasing revenue by just adding a few percent on the tax rate for top earners. They will be investigating and cracking down on tax evasion cases by firms like Genera Electric.

Britain would be doing the same, such as raising revenue and closing tax havens abroad and domestic. The coalition government isn't interested in that too.

I'm from Japan. Do you know how much debt we have? 225% of our GDP, and "cutting the deficit" hasn't even been the main issue at hand, especially now that Japan has to spend a lot more money to rebuild the North-East and fix the nuclear reactor crisis. People still buy our bonds even today.

What happens when you know that you have a debt crisis at hand is when the central banks are reacting by driving up interest rates. Japan, despite having the largest rate of debt to GDP, has one of the lowest interest rate in the world. The US and UK are pretty close too. As opposed to that, Zimbabwe has the highest. They're about to become the poorest country in the world because of their massive inflation, super-high interest rates, and massive debt (that they can't pay off).
You don't get it.
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And a house collapsing under it own weight can't really exist, because it would collapse the moment/before it is built



There's probably some weird existentialist, philisophical debate there, collapsing BEFORE it is buit...
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