#1
Why do people do this? I've heard numerous stories on the news over the last few years that an animal will attack a human, then the animal, if found, will be put down. It's punishing an animal that has no morals and know no better. I understand that if it's in a populated area such as a village, something will need to be done, but surely they could just relocate the animal?
#3
Its a concept from biblical times, and they figure once an animal has a taste for human it will want more. Also killing is easier than relocating.
#4
People do it because humans are an arrogant species who are hypocrites to every other creature and occasionally other humans too. Because people feel humans are the greatest thing since sliced bread therefore it's alright to be unfair to other animals and you know, be a hypocrite and all that.
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#8
My dog bit me, my sister and broke the neighbours finger. My mother took the decision to have him put down. What if a friend were to come round with their toddler and my dog suddenly snapped and disfigured that child for life? We couldn't give him away for fear of him being badly treated if he snapped somewhere else. He'd of been miserable locked up. He was a big dog, he could do some damage.
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#10
Every time you watch one of those "Animals Attack!" or "I survived.." shows they always describe the altercation then follow up with "Johns first mistake.." or " "Peter never should have been poking the dog in the face". 9/10 the person is attacked because they were an idiot. In the event of a shark attack or a large land predator (bear, gator, etc) there are usually many factors that influence the attack. An animal shouldn't be killed for its natural instincts, especially if it isn't a domesticated one.
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Why do people do this? I've heard numerous stories on the news over the last few years that an animal will attack a human, then the animal, if found, will be put down. It's punishing an animal that has no morals and know no better. I understand that if it's in a populated area such as a village, something will need to be done, but surely they could just relocate the animal?


Well usually if an animal attacks and kills a human and then eats it, it will most likely start using humans as a source of food.
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My dog bit me, my sister and broke the neighbours finger. My mother took the decision to have him put down. What if a friend were to come round with their toddler and my dog suddenly snapped and disfigured that child for life? We couldn't give him away for fear of him being badly treated if he snapped somewhere else. He'd of been miserable locked up. He was a big dog, he could do some damage.

I guess. But, that's a risk of having a dog. Not doubting you or your family, but I'm sure steps could have been taken to tame the dog a little more. But your point remains the same, it's a difficult thing with "domesticated" animals. However, wild animals, they're just doing what is natural to them. If they feel threatened, they're gunna defend themselves. Same goes with domesticated animals I guess, but they'd probably have to be provoked a lot more than a wild animal would.


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Well usually if an animal attacks and kills a human and then eats it, it will most likely start using humans as a source of food.


An animal will see something as food whatever it is. If it's a carnivore, and it sees something that it thinks it could over power and said animal is hungry, it's probably gunna attack it. It just so happens, that sometimes the prey is a human. If it's got the opportunity to regularly hunt people, then steps should be taken to protect people such as electric fences ect, before resorting to eradicating the animals.
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People do it because humans are an arrogant species who are hypocrites to every other creature and occasionally other humans too. Because people feel humans are the greatest thing since sliced bread therefore it's alright to be unfair to other animals and you know, be a hypocrite and all that.

+1

If it's something like a shark that eats people (bad example I know) then killing the animal is justifiable as trying to save ourselves from it. But if it's like a dog or something it's just unfair.
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People do it because humans are an arrogant species who are hypocrites to every other creature and occasionally other humans too. Because people feel humans are the greatest thing since sliced bread therefore it's alright to be unfair to other animals and you know, be a hypocrite and all that.

You're an arrogant dickhead.

Dogs get put down because if a dog snaps it means it has a bad temper and will very likely do it again if provoked. If this dog is near children or other animals it will be dangerous, so it's better to be safe. A dog isn't like a human, it's ridiculously difficult to rehabilitate a dog when it's snapped just once.
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i cant believe no one else thought this.
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I guess. But, that's a risk of having a dog. Not doubting you or your family, but I'm sure steps could have been taken to tame the dog a little more. But your point remains the same, it's a difficult thing with "domesticated" animals. However, wild animals, they're just doing what is natural to them. If they feel threatened, they're gunna defend themselves. Same goes with domesticated animals I guess, but they'd probably have to be provoked a lot more than a wild animal would.


We took him to a behaviour specialists who said it was a psychological trait which pops up in his breed from time to time. They just snap every now and then for no reason. He was perfectly tame, extremely well behaved and a wonderful pet just as he got older he went a little insane it seems.
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+1

If it's something like a shark that eats people (bad example I know) then killing the animal is justifiable as trying to save ourselves from it. But if it's like a dog or something it's just unfair.

A shark usually lets go straight after biting the victim, they mistake them for seals. The only sharks I know of that will actively hunt and eat people are tiger sharks.


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We took him to a behaviour specialists who said it was a psychological trait which pops up in his breed from time to time. They just snap every now and then for no reason. He was perfectly tame, extremely well behaved and a wonderful pet just as he got older he went a little insane it seems.


Well, as much as I object to killing an animal to punish it, there's not much you could do in that situation.
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People do it because humans are an arrogant species who are hypocrites to every other creature and occasionally other humans too. Because people feel humans are the greatest thing since sliced bread therefore it's alright to be unfair to other animals and you know, be a hypocrite and all that.


This to an extent. Also, if a dog is behaving dangerously, its not really the dogs fault. I love dogs and it really makes me feel like shit when they are put down because of the owners not properly training them.
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A shark usually lets go straight after biting the victim, they mistake them for seals. The only sharks I know of that will actively hunt and eat people are tiger sharks.

Like I said bad example I couldn't think of anything that ate humans.
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#24
I think they should be sent to Animal Rehab so we can condition them and allow them to become better animals.
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Well, as much as I object to killing an animal to punish it, there's not much you could do in that situation.


It was a sad day for all. We weren't trying to punish him, he was dangerous and my mum thought that the safety of her family was more important. (I still resent the fact that she took my best buddy away though )
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#26
They don't always kill the animal. It's usually if they know there have been repeated attacks in the area or if there's something wrong with the animal that would prevent it from safely being left alone that they'll kill it.

Anyways, if you think of us as being wild animals and think of our neighborhoods as being dens, it makes a metric fuckton of sense why our natural response to a threat so close to where we sleep, screw, and eat would be to kill it. You don't see lions entering peace talks with the other wildlife when things get hairy.
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They don't always kill the animal. It's usually if they know there have been repeated attacks in the area or if there's something wrong with the animal that would prevent it from safely being left alone that they'll kill it.

Anyways, if you think of us as being wild animals and think of our neighborhoods as being dens, it makes a metric fuckton of sense why our natural response to a threat so close to where we sleep, screw, and eat would be to kill it. You don't see lions entering peace talks with the other wildlife when things get hairy.

That's why humans are so advanced and top of the food chain, because we have morals and are capable of making rational decisions
#28
Our old dog got put down when he bit the arm of a delivery man down to the bone and removed a chunk of flesh. The dog was old and blind and had also previously bitten me on the head and drawn blood when i was a kid, but I still liked it despite that. The animals don't know any better and it's pretty dumb if they're killed for revenge. I think people do it because it's expected, not sure if it's the law here but everyone does it to avoid arguments and lots of paperwork...
#29
I kinda torn on the issue. I think really aggressive dogs that attack people all the time should be put down because there is not much a person can do about it. On the other hand though. I have heard numerous stories about a dog or puppy snapping at someone just once and they get put down. That's just ridiculous.

My cousin had her kids at my house one day and my dog who is an English Setter (Golden retriever size) snapped at one of her kids. The dog has never been mean at all. The kid was pulling at her ears and lips and stuff, and the dog didn't even bite, just growled and snapped. My cousin was still all pissed though, telling my family that the dog was evil and should be put down and stuff. I pretty much told her to **** off, and tell her kids to not treat dogs like stuffed animals.
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That's why humans are so advanced and top of the food chain, because we have morals and are capable of making rational decisions


Morals are a human creation. That's not to say they don't mean anything, but it's not something that really changes what we are. We live off of our animal instincts, you can see it all around us. That's why advertisements are more-or-less all tits and/or food. It's why we see the tribal mindset that makes people flock to mass media and become violent when their views are challenged.

And really, at the end of the day, morals and laws and what-have-you are all about survival. Strip away all the pretty lights of developed society and we're just really smart animals living by our instincts.
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They don't always kill the animal. It's usually if they know there have been repeated attacks in the area or if there's something wrong with the animal that would prevent it from safely being left alone that they'll kill it.

Anyways, if you think of us as being wild animals and think of our neighborhoods as being dens, it makes a metric fuckton of sense why our natural response to a threat so close to where we sleep, screw, and eat would be to kill it. You don't see lions entering peace talks with the other wildlife when things get hairy.

Agreed. We're animals just like everything else, are we not? Just with different tendencies and mindsets.
#34
Because people are hypocrites. If a human kills another human then they're imprisoned, if an animal kills a human it's slaughtered - despite the fact that animals almost only ever attack humans as a defence, and more often than not the person died through their own fault. It's punishing an animal that is acting on instinct or defence and without any concept of what we would consider morality - and yet using a morale based punishment to deal with it. It's pathetic, hypocritical and logically flawed.
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#35
I believe recently there was a man who was attacked and killed by a bear because the man accidentally got between the mother bear and her cubs.

In this instance, the authorities did not destroy the animal because it was following it's protective instincts.

So it's not always the case that an animal is put down for attacking people.

There is a difference between wild animals and domesticated ones.

Large dogs, for instance, can do serious harm to humans and especially to children. When a large dog seriously maims a child, or kills them in some cases, it usually is do to the aggressive nature of certain breeds and a combination of their upbringing and training.

These animals that have made an attack are serious threats. Anyone who doesn't agree to that is just wrong. And I'm okay with them being put down. It is extremely hard, and for practical purposes impossible, to "rehabilitate" (or whatever variation of the word you want to use) these animals that have been raised in poor environments.


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