#1
So, I'm 19 going on 20, attending technical school. And for the longest time (about a year now, or longer depending on where you start counting), I've been working my ass off looking for a job. And I have literally heard nothing from anywhere I've applied. The only time I get an interview is if I call the place I apply at and practically beg for one, then they usually ask me over and give me some bullshit minute-long interview and tell me "We'll let you know, we have a lot of applicants for this position, bla bla bla". Basically just patronize me and waste my time.

Are there any tricks I don't know? People keep giving me the same old "it's rough out there these days, just keep trying" bullshit, but it just feels like I'm doing something wrong. I have a lot of friends that seem to have a hell of a lot easier time finding jobs, and I'm sure a few of them just have good connections or whatever, but it's like I'm cursed or something. I seem to have the worst luck. It makes me feel bad about myself, because I'm tired of completely depending on family for gas and food money, you know?

Any advice?
#3
Step one: Walk into prospective work place dressed well
Step two: Ask manager for application
Step three: Fill out application and turn it in online or preferably in person
Step four: Call everyday thereafter and check on the status of your application
Step five: Congratulations, you're making minimum wage doing retail bitch work
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Quote by RU Experienced?
Step one: Walk into prospective work place dressed well
Step two: Ask manager for application
Step three: Fill out application and turn it in online or preferably in person
Step four: Call everyday thereafter and check on the status of your application
Step five: Congratulations, you're making minimum wage doing retail bitch work


Persistence is key, I had to go in and speak to the manager 4 times before they finally hired me. Being a pain in the ass can pay off.
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#8
Make a really good resume, and practice good interview skills. Do some research on the company you'll be interviewed at. So if they ask you the question "why do you want to work here?", which they probably will, you'll have some pre-thought of answer planned.

The current job I'm at now, which I just started 2 months ago, and this is the career I want to be in (automotive mechanic), I wasn't interviewed by the manager who I was supposed to be interviewed by (since he got injured the day before). Instead I was interviewed by the shop foreman. Who, according to the manager, is not easily impressed, but was I was able to impress. And he told the manager he should definitely hire me. And I actually started off making a couple bucks an hour more than they normally start people at.

So know how to answer questions in the right way, and you'll do fine.
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1. Walk into store
2. Ask for Application
3. Fill out Applicition
4. Turn in Application
5. ?????
6. Profit!
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No restaurants. Unless you have a deep passion for food, don't.

Too much dignity for washing dishes and taking food orders? TS is looking for a minimum wage job.
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That site has been my best friend since I started looking....


Quote by RU Experienced?
Step one: Walk into prospective work place dressed well
Step two: Ask manager for application
Step three: Fill out application and turn it in online or preferably in person
Step four: Call everyday thereafter and check on the status of your application
Step five: Congratulations, you're making minimum wage doing retail bitch work

Most places around here, they won't give you an application in person, they just tell you to go online and do it. At least in my experience.

And I usually call, at least if it's a place I'm genuinely interested in working at, but I have to admit that I don't do it every day. More like once a week, or at the most every other day. Maybe that's my problem. It just feels like that's overdoing it, but again I'm not having a lot of success, so...


Quote by Koshman32
Make a really good resume, and practice good interview skills. Do some research on the company you'll be interviewed at. So if they ask you the question "why do you want to work here?", which they probably will, you'll have some pre-thought of answer planned.

The current job I'm at now, which I just started 2 months ago, and this is the career I want to be in (automotive mechanic), I wasn't interviewed by the manager who I was supposed to be interviewed by (since he got injured the day before). Instead I was interviewed by the shop foreman. Who, according to the manager, is not easily impressed, but was I was able to impress. And he told the manager he should definitely hire me. And I actually started off making a couple bucks an hour more than they normally start people at.

So know how to answer questions in the right way, and you'll do fine.

I envy you, you're in the field I'm going into. Or at least trying to. But at this point I've pretty much given up on automotive jobs until I get a couple ASEs and a little more experience.
#12
To be honest it's really all about who you know, not how great of a resume you can put together. I'm in the same situation, and people who are half as smart, and a hell of a lot lazier then me can find a job a week after they start trying, but I've applied to every store and restaurant in the area in the past few months, and even signed up with the local temp agencies and I haven't gotten a single job offer yet.
#13
Quote by RU Experienced?
Step one: Walk into prospective work place dressed well
Step two: Ask manager for application
Step three: Fill out application and turn it in online or preferably in person
Step four: Call everyday thereafter and check on the status of your application
Step five: Congratulations, you're making minimum wage doing retail bitch work





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I envy you, you're in the field I'm going into. Or at least trying to. But at this point I've pretty much given up on automotive jobs until I get a couple ASEs and a little more experience.

I was getting to the point where I thought I'd never find a job in this field unless I went to school and got my pre-apprenticeship. But then I got hired here, and even better, it's at a Ford dealership! And they'll pay for me to go to school and everything like that. So no complaints from me.
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Too much dignity for washing dishes and taking food orders? TS is looking for a minimum wage job.


Not at all, in fact I do it quite a bit lol. But unless you're in a position in a restaurant that requires a lot of skill and/or schooling, like cooking, then you're going to be treated like crap. Assuming TS is pretty young as well, another reason he won't get much respect. I was simply warning him that a minimum wage job in a restaurant is going to be a lot of crappy job on top of crappy treatment for minimum wage. There's so many better minimum wage jobs out there.
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Not at all, in fact I do it quite a bit lol. But unless you're in a position in a restaurant that requires a lot of skill and/or schooling, like cooking, then you're going to be treated like crap. Assuming TS is pretty young as well, another reason he won't get much respect. I was simply warning him that a minimum wage job in a restaurant is going to be a lot of crappy job on top of crappy treatment for minimum wage. There's so many better minimum wage jobs out there.

agreed. Restaurants can be absolute torture, and the hours can be horrendous. I used to work 8am-1pm then 5pm-2am split shifts for days on end. 5 hours in between shifts to get home, sleep, get up and back to work, and then a 4 hour break for a quick nap in the afternoon. They didn't even always give me meals. It was beyond shit.
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#17
Ask everywhere. Go to job centre, if there is such a thing in the states. Ask everywhere. Read newspapers/websites.
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#18
Get a recommendation from a family member or friend's workplace.

Absolute best way to get a job.
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#19
It's really about persistence, and luck even. Put a few applications in at a few places, call up on all of them, and in 2 weeks put in another application. Keep spamming the managers tray of recent applications, and you will stick his/her mind.

Also, a lot of it is confidence, go in there KNOWING you are going to get the job, because your the shit. When it comes to actually having the job, work hard, and they will be sure to hire you back in years to come.
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#20
Practice your interview skills. I did tons of embarrassing mock interviews over the years and nowadays I know with 100% certainty that if I can manage to get an interview, I'm guaranteed a job offer.
#22
With minimun wage jobs it's becoming more often than not, who you know.

Ask around your family and friends to see if they know anyone that's really hiring and see if they can put in a good word for you.


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#23
Go round to somebody's house and say you'll clean up or something for money. It's cash in hand and you don't pay tax on it. 100% profit.
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Sell drugs.
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#26
Look for fulltime work at a place that has a high turnover rate. I just recently got a job at a call center doing tech support for AT&T. I didn't know a thing about doing tech support. They train you for 3 weeks (full time, do nothing and get paid for those three weeks) then you work. I'm doing 10am-7pm mon-fri. It's not the best job in the world, but it's easy (if you can handle people yelling at you.) and pays minimum, which works out to be about $800 every two weeks.

Or get in somewhere with a long training period, then quit after training. Then find a new place to do it, repeat. No work, lots of useless skills!
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#28
Be prepared to set your sites a little lower than what you want, it's easier to hop from one job to another, whilst in work, than jack in your job, and try to find another
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It's really about persistence, and luck even. Put a few applications in at a few places, call up on all of them, and in 2 weeks put in another application. Keep spamming the managers tray of recent applications, and you will stick his/her mind.

Also, a lot of it is confidence, go in there KNOWING you are going to get the job, because your the shit. When it comes to actually having the job, work hard, and they will be sure to hire you back in years to come.

All right then. Give me an example of what you would say when you call. I usually just say something like "Hi, I put in an application a while back, and I'm wondering if the position has been filled yet" or something like that. Anything better to go by?

Part of it could be my interview skills. I'm already somewhat socialphobic by nature, it's not easy to do things like that for me.
#30
what got me a few interviews and eventually mightve helped me get a job is to attach a cover letter to the paper applications that you turn in. Itll give you a little something that makes you stick out from everyone else and you can talk about stuff that there isnt place for on an application. Just keep it short, like 3 or 4 paragraphs about yourself. Also, do what everyone else is saying about persistence
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No restaurants. Unless you have a deep passion for food, don't.




The restaurant industry is easily the best place to make a lot of money in a short amount of time, and it's easy, easy work. TS, go for a busing job. Easy way to break into working in restaurants and it's easy to move up to food runner and eventually waiter (where the real money is). It's the decision between that and sitting behind a register all day, occasionally stocking shelves.

As far as applying goes, you just have to dress well, have a lot of confidence, and always talk to managers. Never seem too casual, and always answer questions as fast and with the most confidence that you can (stay away from "uh").
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#32
My dad's a health inspector around here, so he's always talking to restaurant managers and finds out if they're hiring. That's how I got my job at a restaurant...although it sucks as I get less than 10 hours a week, the staff is awesome....but it's bullshit work hours.

In short...find someone who can get you in lol (possibly a friend who already works there)
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The restaurant industry is easily the best place to make a lot of money in a short amount of time, and it's easy, easy work. TS, go for a busing job. Easy way to break into working in restaurants and it's easy to move up to food runner and eventually waiter (where the real money is). It's the decision between that and sitting behind a register all day, occasionally stocking shelves.

As far as applying goes, you just have to dress well, have a lot of confidence, and always talk to managers. Never seem too casual, and always answer questions as fast and with the most confidence that you can (stay away from "uh").

People give me the "no uh" advice all the time, but dammit, it's practically impossible. Sometimes it's like my mouth just can't keep up with my brain, and the "uh" is like the "now loading" screen.
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People give me the "no uh" advice all the time, but dammit, it's practically impossible. Sometimes it's like my mouth just can't keep up with my brain, and the "uh" is like the "now loading" screen.


I completely get what you mean. It's just something you have to break through. It shows you have people skills and that you won't have any problems interacting in the work place. It may sound cheesy, but go look up typical interview questions online and practice your answers in the mirror. You won't care how dumb it looks when you're rolling in the benjamins.
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#36
I've applied for two jobs in my life. One at a music store, and one at a gym,landed both, I took the one at a gym because of convenience. The few constants I found in my application process were that they were jobs that I had a background in (high school sports jock thing, guitar playing and keyboard). Also, I applied in person, greeted, shook hands, and smiled at every employee I could. Finally, I did volunteer work all throughout high school, which I really think set me apart.

A) Go for jobs you may have some knowledge about.
B) Greet everyone, especially managers, with a smile and handshake.
C) Your a jobless bum anyway, go do some volunteer work.