#1
Hey guys,

So I noticed that Gibson LP Customs have a very cool finish that changes with age, as well as the binding that becomes yellow and such. I think it's amazing.

I have an Epi LP Custom. Can I expect the same thing ? Or anything at all ?
Or will my guitar be the same in 10 years than it is now ?

Thanks!
#2
If memory serves, the old ones age like that because of the Nitro paint, which isn't used any more. So, no, yours will not age like an old Gibby, but neither will a new Gibby, if that's any consolation.
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#3
Oh really ? So new Gibsons look the same year after year ? It is a consolation ^^ thanks!
#4
Some things will oxidize. The binding will yellow if left in the sun.

Depending on conditions it can take years. But as the guy above said it is now a completely different type of finish on the wood so it will not be the same.
#5
I think so, but I've been wrong before.
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#6
its the lacquer that caused the yellowing, nitrocellulose tended to do that. both Gibsons and Epiphones use polyurethane finishes now though
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#7
you could strip off the current lacquer and get a nitro finish put over it. then it would age in a similar fashion.
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When you crank up the gain to 10 and switch to the lead channel, it actually sounds like you are unjustifiably bombing an innocent foreign land.


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its the lacquer that caused the yellowing, nitrocellulose tended to do that. both Gibsons and Epiphones use polyurethane finishes now though



lololol every time i read your sig i think that anyone who reads it but wasn't in that thread will be like WTF
Originally posted by primusfan
When you crank up the gain to 10 and switch to the lead channel, it actually sounds like you are unjustifiably bombing an innocent foreign land.


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#9
yeah totally, it was a had to be there moment fo sho
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you could strip off the current lacquer and get a nitro finish put over it. then it would age in a similar fashion.



Seriously ? One could do that ? And would it be... risky or difficult ?
#11
Not if you know how to do it.
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#12
wtf since when did gibson start using lacquer? one of the reasons I wanted a gibson was because of the nitro finish as far as i knew they still used it. those cheap bastards
#13
I thought it was an environmental thing. Could be cost though.
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Seriously ? One could do that ? And would it be... risky or difficult ?

Depends. Are you a woodworker type of guy or are you a pay somebody to do it sorta guy? Sounds like a lot of rooting around for nothing. My first reaction to this thread was "will a gibson age like a gibson?" Just treat it right man, it will server you well. It's not an investment, it's a working guitar.
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#15


Gibson still uses nitro lacquer on everything but the cheap faded guitars. Granted, it's a slightly different chemical composition because of environmental regulations but still. It's exactly the same thing as the old stuff in practice.

And a good poly finish is considerably more expensive than a good lacquer finish because it takes a lot more man hours and training to get it right.
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#16
cathbard is right. epiphones can be nice guitars, but there is also a chance you wont even have the thing long enough for it to age like that haha
Originally posted by primusfan
When you crank up the gain to 10 and switch to the lead channel, it actually sounds like you are unjustifiably bombing an innocent foreign land.


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#17
Oh... Said I wasn't sure.


^Doesn't it take like 10 years or so?
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#18
With the time you'll probably own it, the only age you're going to get is a chip in the headstock and some wore frets.

Not worth the hassle. Nice idea though.
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#20
i think your best bet would be to buy an old gibson from a not so "collectable" year. that way it will already be old and worn in and have all the old goodness you want. and you can find some for around the price of new ones or even less. but some old gibsons go waayyy up in value. so you have to shop around.
Originally posted by primusfan
When you crank up the gain to 10 and switch to the lead channel, it actually sounds like you are unjustifiably bombing an innocent foreign land.


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#21
nah. you need nitro for that, far as i'm aware.
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#22


the lighter silver colour is the original.... my Epi aged pretty Damn fast, that was after 8 years of hard playing/gigging.

but my guitar was neither pooh or nitro, though my Jim Root fender was nitro and that was 'aging' as you played the bloody thing.

new Gibson guitars take much longer to age than the old and even they took decades.
#23
First of all: Gibson does still use nitro finishes, even on their cheapest guitars.
That includes the Melody Maker and the Faded series.

That means Gibsons will age well, as you would except from a nitro finished guitar.

EDIT: ^ The Jim Root is NOT nitro finished, not many modern Fenders are.
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#24
what they call "nitro" today isn't close to what they used in the 50's and 60's.

if it's a thin coat finish, it will age faster.
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