#1
Hey yall

I love my guitar (see gear in sig) but as I get better at playing and finding new sounds, I'm interested in another type of guitar (a LP with P90s).

I've been playing for a bit more than 1year 1/2 . So I'm still in the "beginner" category I suppose.

So I'm wondering if I should get a guitar I like now, or wait till I am more experienced ?
Any thoughts ?
#2
In my experience, the second guitar you plan in the first 1-2 years of playing will NOT be the guitar you ultimately want. I suggest you swap pickups on the old Epi if you feel like its not good enough, and then wait a little, like 6 months, to see if you still want that other guitar. Think of it like a tattoo, you must be really convinced before buying, and not do it by impulse.

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#3
If it will inspire you to keep playing, I say go for it. There isn't a set rule on how many guitars you should have at any given time.


If you think this new LP will open up some new tones that you couldn't achieve, then why not?
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Trying to find new sounds by going from an LP to another LP. Interesting.

2 years is really the first time you should consider a second guitar.
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the guitar I'm interested in is a LP Special with P90's, so while it's still a LP, it's still quite different (thinner, lighter etc).

But thanks for the info I need some wisdom right now I tend to buy stuff really fast..
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Trying to find new sounds by going from an LP to another LP. Interesting.

2 years is really the first time you should consider a second guitar.


P-90s and humbuckers not different?


Interesting...
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Trying to find new sounds by going from an LP to another LP. Interesting.

2 years is really the first time you should consider a second guitar.


Theres quite a difference between a humbucker and a P90 you see...

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#8
Quote by alans056
the guitar I'm interested in is a LP Special with P90's, so while it's still a LP, it's still quite different (thinner, lighter etc).

But thanks for the info I need some wisdom right now I tend to buy stuff really fast..


asking that question here is like asking a car dealer if you should have a nice summer convertible.

LP specials with an all mahogany body and p-90s isn't going to sound like a maple top LP with buckers. ever.

go for it.
#9
I like one of the previous suggestions, which is to swap out the pickups on your Epi. I also have an Epi LP Custom and love it, but will probably at some point end up popping a Super Distortion into the bridge position.

The thing about having more than one guitar is you have to ask yourself how often you are going to play both guitars or if you are actually looking for another number one to use pretty much all the time.

I have six guitars (one of them acoustic), but I usually end up reaching for either the Epi LP or my Fender American Standard Strat.
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If it will inspire you to keep playing, I say go for it. There isn't a set rule on how many guitars you should have at any given time.


If you think this new LP will open up some new tones that you couldn't achieve, then why not?

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#11
Swapping pups is more than half the price of the guitar. (guitar is 300€, 2 P94 go for 180/200&euro, so might aswell get the guitar instead of having the trouble of soldering and having 2 Gibson pups lying around ?
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If it will inspire you to keep playing, I say go for it. There isn't a set rule on how many guitars you should have at any given time.


If you think this new LP will open up some new tones that you couldn't achieve, then why not?


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#13
I think you should buy guitars if you can afford them. Who cares about your skill level!?
But as one poster posted going from an LP to an LP seems a little silly despite the differences you pointed out. I mean I can't imagine that the tone will be drastically different enough to warrant buying a new guitar. If you're looking for a different tone why not just get new pups or a different amp?
#14
Well as I said, a pair of P94s would cost nearly as much as the guitar so it's not worth it.
I already have a super cool amp : Blues Jr.

Why wouldn't the tone be drastically different ? P90's on a lighter and thinner wood should sound fairly differnt than a big LP Custom with 57' Classics...
#15
Some people will tell you that a "beginner" doesn't need more than one guitar. This is mostly because new players won't be able to tell the difference between the different features, woods, pickups, etc. of different guitars. There's also a good argument against investing too much money before you know whether you like the hobby or not.

But clearly you can tell the difference between the tone of your current guitar and the tone of an Epi Special with P-90s. You're looking for something to compliment and add to your current sound. And obviously you've stuck with the hobby long enough to understand that there are differences between different guitars, woods, pickups, etc, and now you're starting to develop your own preferences. So yeah, I think you're absolutely ready to buy another guitar.

Will it be the guitar you own forever?... Probably not.

Will your tastes change as you play more?... You can bet on it.

Some people might say those are the exact reasons why you shouldn't buy another guitar yet. But that's backwards logic. You won't know exactly what you DO like until you own a few guitars that you DON'T like.
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Some people will tell you that a "beginner" doesn't need more than one guitar. This is mostly because new players won't be able to tell the difference between the different features, woods, pickups, etc. of different guitars. There's also a good argument against investing too much money before you know whether you like the hobby or not.

But clearly you can tell the difference between the tone of your current guitar and the tone of an Epi Special with P-90s. You're looking for something to compliment and add to your current sound. And obviously you've stuck with the hobby long enough to understand that there are differences between different guitars, woods, pickups, etc, and now you're starting to develop your own preferences. So yeah, I think you're absolutely ready to buy another guitar.

Will it be the guitar you own forever?... Probably not.

Will your tastes change as you play more?... You can bet on it.

Some people might say those are the exact reasons why you shouldn't buy another guitar yet. But that's backwards logic. You won't know exactly what you DO like until you own a few guitars that you DON'T like.



Thanks a lot this was super usefull, I think I might get the guitar!
I really needed all these posts of guitar players because now I can make up my mind more clearly.

A guitar with P90s' should definetly be a good choice with a LP Custom.
#17
I love my second guitar but it doenst suit my needs well enough and I already want a new one. So basically you'll be asking the the same thing after you buy your second. Im pretty sure I'll get it right when I buy my third - it will be perfect!
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haha well that scares me a little, I don't have THAT much money ! 2 guitars is my max.
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I love my second guitar but it doenst suit my needs well enough and I already want a new one. So basically you'll be asking the the same thing after you buy your second. Im pretty sure I'll get it right when I buy my third - it will be perfect!


take it from an old geezer you will always be thinking about getting a new guitar and be "sure" that the "next one" will be perfect . i've owned 8 different guitars in the last 4 years and out of those i've only kept 3 (although it looks like those will be around for a while).

i'd think about getting an SG with P-90s instead of a LP jr as it will give you something different to play. you might even want to go wild and think about a strat or tele.
#20
I'm not really Strats or Tele, the only Fender guitar I like is the Fender Jaguar, black and chrome with single coils. Looks awesome. But it's too expensive.

And I hate SG's! sorry !
#21
why go from LP to LP? maybe he likes them :P they have the 1956 RI with P-90s that seems like it would be a great second guitar. i promise you will notice a difference. It's not like you're rocking a spider or something. I think it would do what you play very well. Go for it!
#22
thanks! whats a 1956 RI ?

EDIT: Oh "Re Issue" I suppose. The 56 Goldtop with P90s ? yeah it's awesome but I was going for the LP Special, a lighter and thinner body with mahogany sounds even cooler.

My Custom is so massive that a lighter guitar would be great.
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#23
lol i gotcha man. i got back problems so anytime i can use a lighter guitar i go for it. Havent played that one. Only special i have played was the Special II and that one was just...no.. haha
#24
Oh yeah the Special II is terrible. But the TV Yellow one with P90's seems quite good : grover tuners, set neck... I'm not a big expert but sounds good ?
#25
definitely sounds like an improvement. I'll have to look it up. The only reason i wouldnt play a lot of lower end guitars is just because the feel of the rosewood on a lot of cheap guitars. it's just bleh to me
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I think you should buy guitars if you can afford them. Who cares about your skill level!?
But as one poster posted going from an LP to an LP seems a little silly despite the differences you pointed out. I mean I can't imagine that the tone will be drastically different enough to warrant buying a new guitar. If you're looking for a different tone why not just get new pups or a different amp?

+1 Nailed it.
You second guitar should be significantly different, not just a little different. And seriously consider used, its so much easier to resell with little loss.
#27
since when do all mahogany P-90 LPs sound like maple top bucker LPs?

i mean if you want something drastically different, try a banjo.
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since when do all mahogany P-90 LPs sound like maple top bucker LPs?

i mean if you want something drastically different, try a banjo.



+1 for like the third time.

i am gassing for a P90 Gibson atm.

as for having different guitars, i am sure i had at least 6 or 7 my first year. throughout my playing (seven years), i am sure i have owned around 100 guitars. at one point i had a total of around 40. i do a lot of buying, selling, and trading. i make money off of the deals. i can think of two times when i traded something for something and traded the guitar i got in the trade to somebody else for something else in the same day. i own about 20 now, and am looking for about two more for the restof the year.
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#29
Its a tough call. When I started playing I bought new guitars whenever I could afford it. But now that I've been playing for quite a long time I really only use two or three guitars regularly and many of my early guitars have gone by the wayside. Part of me wishes that I would have held off until I was experienced and bought a guitar that fit my style but I don't think my style would have developed how it did if I didn't progress through the ten or so guitars. If you like the Jaguar though, the squeir vintage Jaguar actually sounds pretty good. If you put some P-90's on it it would be a nice guitar.
#30
Definitely go for it. The more guitars you own, the closer and closer you come to finding the guitar that is right for you. The more guitars you play, the easier it is for you to find out and determine what exact features you like about a guitar.

Plus just having experience on many types of guitars is always a plus.
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#31
You can always do what I did.. I bought way too many guitars, then at the end of it all.. Modded the first guitar I ever bought (MIM Strat), and play that one all the time.

I did some pretty heavy modifications to my guitar though.. The only thing stock on it is the body. Bottom line.. Do what makes YOU happy and what makes YOU satisfied.
#32
I have been playing a couple of years and am fortunate to be able to afford extra guitars. I currently have 6. 2 fenders 2 gibsons 1 Martin and a prs. I love collectIng them. I have returned some I don't like, etc but generally they even help me practice more. When I think I have a rift or song or lesson down perfect, I grab another guitar and cover everything again on it. I like looking at them and even like the smell of some of them(Martin). I finally have a favorite and could get by with just the one guitar now, but I love having several.