#1
Hi guys

1) Does it confuse anybody else that there are no definitive scale patterns for all 5 of the CAGED scale shapes? I have been looking at different websites and many of the scale patterns differ in that they start and end on different notes. Is it just a matter of preference in that you have to choose which one you like best? I swear i must have seen a website that had SEVEN different scale patterns for a major scale.

2)When you play a scale, can you skip into a different scale pattern without even thinking?. What i mean is, if you were perhaps playing a C major scale pattern based around the A string root, could you skip straight into the notes based around the D string root?

Or do you know all of the notes and not worry about the patterns and just go straight for all the right notes?. It seems challenging to go from one pattern to the other, the notes seem like a jumble to me.

I'm a bit of a scale novice and it makes me curious to see the levels that are people play at lol.
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Or do you know all of the notes and not worry about the patterns and just go straight for all the right notes?


This. Practice deriving your Major/Minor scales in all keys.
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#3
1no it doesnt confuse me but that comes with practice i learned the scales by the notes and scale degrees they have it just made more sense to me than to memorize all the patterns and just see the neck as a series of notes instead of scale boxes

2yes again it comes with practice and knowing where the notes you want to hit are
#4
Practice deriving your Major/Minor scales in all keys.
This - if you learn the intervals which make up the scales, you'll be able to play them in any key and in any position, and switch between all the positions up and down the fretboard.
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#5
Yeah, I know all the notes. I find those ways to be okay for starting out, but I find it much more beneficial if someone can just play anything they like because they see the entire picture of where to go.

I don't use or endorse the CAGED system, or the traditional "Box Patterns" as they are learned, in general, but if that's all you have I guess you have to deal with the inherent learning curves/limitations of each.

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#6
Quote by casino1987
Hi guys

1) Does it confuse anybody else that there are no definitive scale patterns for all 5 of the CAGED scale shapes? I have been looking at different websites and many of the scale patterns differ in that they start and end on different notes. Is it just a matter of preference in that you have to choose which one you like best? I swear i must have seen a website that had SEVEN different scale patterns for a major scale.

2)When you play a scale, can you skip into a different scale pattern without even thinking?. What i mean is, if you were perhaps playing a C major scale pattern based around the A string root, could you skip straight into the notes based around the D string root?

Or do you know all of the notes and not worry about the patterns and just go straight for all the right notes?. It seems challenging to go from one pattern to the other, the notes seem like a jumble to me.

I'm a bit of a scale novice and it makes me curious to see the levels that are people play at lol.


Ill try to simplify.

The pattern is only there to help you learn the position of the scales. So the C Major Scale has 8 notes. C,D,E,F,G,A,B. All these notes on the guitar are within the scale.

You're a beginner, so use the patterns and positions to learn where the notes are until you are comfortable with the one scale across the fretboard.
#7
you can play scales anywhere on the neck as long as you know the know the notes in the scale and the notes on the fretboard.
Yes, you can skip to any pattern of the scale on the fly.
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#8
Ww, lots of quick replies!

Ok, i shall start learning the notes of the WHOLE fretboard. I suppose learning box patterns only gets you so far. I know the scale intervals of the modes and the pent scales but i finding the notes without thinking is difficult for me.

Thanks for the advice guys!
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Ww, lots of quick replies!

Ok, i shall start learning the notes of the WHOLE fretboard. I suppose learning box patterns only gets you so far. I know the scale intervals of the modes and the pent scales but i finding the notes without thinking is difficult for me.

Thanks for the advice guys!


Make sure you are making music with the scales as well. Don't just learn the theory Good luck.