#1
So, I'm thinking of getting some new pups for my dual humbucker Mexican Tele. Right now it just has the stock P90's, so I'm going to replace both pick-ups. On the bridge I want a good pick-up for metal/pinch harmonics (possibly EMG) and for the neck I want a pick-up I can use for jazz, blues, and other clean and slightly dirty tones (I try to play a little bit of everything.) I don't have a budget right now, but it would be nice just to get an estimate. New or used is fine, and my closest city is Oklahoma City. Thanks in advance!
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#2
No budget?

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#3
^that, or on the active side of the coin, and EMG 81/60 set, or if you want a bit less sterility, 81X/60X.
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#4
^ very good idea. the 81 is the ideal metal pickup. screaming hot and great for some serious chugging. the 60 is a slightly lower output pup but is still active and should be better for some jazz stuff
#5
I'd keep it with P-90s, just for the unique factor. Go with these if they are humbucker spaced P-90's.

BKP Stockholm P-90's. http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=p90s&sub=humbucker_sized_p90s&pickup=stockholm

If they are normal spaced P-90's, then go with these.

BKP Pig 90's. http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=p90s&sub=p90s&pickup=pig_90
#6
does it have p90s or humbuckers?
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does it have p90s or humbuckers?




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#8
ah ok, so it has humbuckers

if you play a bit of everything i'd be wary about going active (or at least EMG, I haven't tried duncan's actives)... most of them aren't particularly versatile and sound a bit "hi-fi" most of the time if you aren't careful. Plus if you go passive you can get a high output (or pretty high output) bridge pickup for the heavier stuff and combine it with a lower output neck pickup for versatility*.

what's your amp?


*yes i realise you can combine actives and passives but it's a faff.
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ah ok, so it has humbuckers

if you play a bit of everything i'd be wary about going active (or at least EMG, I haven't tried duncan's actives)... most of them aren't particularly versatile and sound a bit "hi-fi" most of the time if you aren't careful. Plus if you go passive you can get a high output (or pretty high output) bridge pickup for the heavier stuff and combine it with a lower output neck pickup for versatility*.

what's your amp?


*yes i realise you can combine actives and passives but it's a faff.



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#11
i have no issues with actives and if you kno how to work your volume knob they can be really versatile. ya there are some things they can't do that passives can but all in all i love actives. they aren't for everyone so i would suggest playing em to see how you feel about them.

and another note, if you go actives ur gonna have to have some body work on the guitar done so that it can accept the battery and there is a possibility for some more routing to be done to accept the electronics. just something to keep in mind
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ah ok, i'm guessing you have some dirt pedals for that range of tones?
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ah ok, i'm guessing you have some dirt pedals for that range of tones?


Yes, I usually use an RP70 for my tones, but I also use a Jekyll and Hyde Visual Sound pedal for distortion and overdrive sometimes.
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#14
ok that'd be fine

if you want to stick to the big brands, maybe one of the duncan customs in the bridge with a '59 in the neck, or maybe a dimarzio norton (haven't tried that one but it's meant to be the all-rounder) with one of the dimarzio pafs in the neck?
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#15
Okay, that'd probably work, but what's a paf? Sorry, I know nothing about pick-ups
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#17
yeah, basically.

there are a bunch of dimarzio paf models (which have paf in the title of the pickup... the paf pro and joe are a bit more modern-sounding, though).
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#18
Okay thanks, I think I'm gonna get the EMG 85 for the bridge. Still not sure for the neck.
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#19
check out GFS pickups. I have hot rail in my tele and its amazing. It can definitely pull off metal without breaking a sweat. They have a pretty big selection so I'm positive you can find something that fits the bill for your neck pickup.
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Okay thanks, I think I'm gonna get the EMG 85 for the bridge. Still not sure for the neck.


i guess it'd be more versatile than an 81, but personally i'd stay away from emgs for versatility. your call, of course, it's your money.
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#21
^ Exactly. It's likely that you won't be pleased with it for the "jazz, blues, and other clean stuff" you listed in the OP. A passive will give you far more versatility. Most of them are cheaper than EMGs too.
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#23
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i guess it'd be more versatile than an 81, but personally i'd stay away from emgs for versatility. your call, of course, it's your money.



Nononono I was going to have a pick-up in the bridge for all of.the metal stuff.I play, and a neck pickup for all of the bluesy and clean stuff. Sorry, didn't really make that clear enough in the OP.

I'm replacing both pups.
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#24
yep, sure. the problem is that if you go with EMGs you're pretty much tied to other EMGs (or at least active pickups... not sure if other brands work together easily or not) for the neck pickup, which is really cutting into your versatility. as i said earlier in the thread.
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yep, sure. the problem is that if you go with EMGs you're pretty much tied to other EMGs (or at least active pickups... not sure if other brands work together easily or not) for the neck pickup, which is really cutting into your versatility. as i said earlier in the thread.


Sorry, like I said, I know nothing about pick-ups.
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#27
that one should be pretty good for cleans. I haven't tried it, but it's a lower output paf type and that's generally what you want if you want cleans from humbuckers. something a bit hotter in the bridge position combined with that should work pretty well.
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that one should be pretty good for cleans. I haven't tried it, but it's a lower output paf type and that's generally what you want if you want cleans from humbuckers. something a bit hotter in the bridge position combined with that should work pretty well.


Okay, so now I have my neck pick-up, and finding a hot Dimarzio pick-up won't be too hard.
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#30
isn't that a neck pickup too?

i mean something like a tone zone, norton, super distortion (depending on the tone you want, of course) for the bridge position.
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isn't that a neck pickup too?

i mean something like a tone zone, norton, super distortion (depending on the tone you want, of course) for the bridge position.



That Amazon page said recommended for bridge position, but yeah, Ill,probably get a,super distortion.
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#32
oh yeah that's right, i remember reading about it on the DM site yesterday.

But yeah it'd only really work as a bridge pickup for more vintage-type tones. for the stuff you want i'd go hotter.
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#33
Yes, thanks for all the help So, I'm going with the Super Distortion and the PAF I mentioned earlier
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#34
yeah, that should work.

or you could go a little less hot with the bridge pickup for more versatility (e.g. norton i think? haven't tried that one but i think it's meant to be the all-rounder). Just depends on what you want.
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