#1
Would you say something like this would be generally accurate?

%'s are of the new price from a dealer

70% - mint/like new condition
60% - very good condition
50% - good/average condition
40% or lower - quite worn condition


Or does it depend completely on supply/demand and can't really be ruled into figures such as those listed above?

Thoughts?
Last edited by fixationdarknes at Aug 6, 2011,
#2
Depends on demand and supply
And whatever someone is willing to pay...
#4
supply and demand, yeah.

but for stuff which is reasonably well sought after, those percentages would probably be ok as a rule of thumb. Maybe up them slightly, though (depending on the market).

so:

70-80%- mint/like new
60-70% - very good condition
50-60% - good/average condition
40-50% or lower - quite worn condition
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#5
A Gibson Les Paul could probably go for near to what it was bought for.

A beaten up vintage Les Paul can go for 1000 times what it was bought for.

It depends on the age, make, model, demand and condition of the guitar
#6
In my experience, a store will give you 50% maximum.
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#7
the used guitar market is totally driven by supply and demand. you can't use a percentage guide for rare items that never really works for collectbles. rare stuff is totally driven by what the market will bear. this tends to skew prices toward the upper end of an items value as the buyer is often someone who reallly wants it and is willing to pay rather than take the chance of not coming across the item again.

common guitars often sell used for about half of what they were priced new. you see guitars like squier strats on craigslist everyday this drives the price down as there is so much competition that cheap is all that sells.

the only way you can really gauge the value of rarer guitars (amps etc) is to check finished auctions on ebay. skip the new auctions as many of those will never sell for the asking price , hope springs eternal on ebay. the finished auctions will show you what (and if) the guitar actually has sold for and hopefully you'll see a few sales to get a decent average.

with the crappy economy it's a good time to buy if you have the cash as prices are down.
#8
^ yep. the figures i posted are more a rule of thumb for readily available stuff.

For rarer stuff, as you say, all bets are off.

All bets are off regarding what a store might give you, too ^^
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#9
Yeah I've edited my OP. I guess I didn't mean rarer guitars but more like production guitars which are discontinued and not too common anymore. Not necessarily "rare" though.


--Actually, how much have you guys seen Jackson RR24's going for lately in the used market? I only see two completed listings of RR24's on there right now and they were both heavily modified.
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Yeah I've edited my OP. I guess I didn't mean rarer guitars but more like production guitars which are discontinued and not too common anymore. Not necessarily "rare" though.


--Actually, how much have you guys seen Jackson RR24's going for lately in the used market? I only see two completed listings of RR24's on there right now and they were both heavily modified.


i wasn't referring to "rare" like a 59 LP either. once a guitar is discontinued alls it usually takes is a few years for them to disappear and they get tougher to get. for instance i have a Squier Esprit. they were only made for 2 years and appearently weren't made in large quantities (its a mahogany set neck guitar similar to the robben ford sig guitar that fender used to make). even thoug the guitar is only 6 years old they already are selling for as much or more than they did new on the used market (if you can find one).

if you can't find more closed auctions then see what people are asking for them and average that. not the most accurate but you can probably knock off a couple hundred for a more realistic price.
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Depends on luck/who you sell to etc.


You bought them used, right?
#14
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I see. Does this almost always seem to be the case with discontinued models?


no not at all actually that one is an exception but worked for the point i was making. most models get discontinued for a reason some good some bad. the good would be an improved model was released the bad that particular one didn't sell.

i wouldn't count on being able to sell a guitar you bought new for anywheres near what you paid (there are exceptions to every rule but remember they would be exceptions). used it's not hard to get what you paid or close provided the guitar is in good shape and desireable. this is selling from person to person, stores want to make money so they won't pay you squat.
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for instance i have a Squier Esprit. they were only made for 2 years and appearently weren't made in large quantities (its a mahogany set neck guitar similar to the robben ford sig guitar that fender used to make). even thoug the guitar is only 6 years old they already are selling for as much or more than they did new on the used market (if you can find one).


I wonder what TGP's influence is on that price...
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#17
i'd never pay more then 65% of the new price for a second hand guitar, we're talking about new guitar here ofcourse.

you never know what the peeps before you have done to it so it might be a steal but who knows what they did to electronics and junk that might be chinese quality now.