#1
Okay so i'm incredibly bored, and thought a discussion might enhance my procrastination. So my question is.

Why do you think people are afraid of buying a non-brand name piece of gear?

I'm not saying everyone does, but what is it that makes people flock to big brands name, e.g. Marshall, Gibson, when there are cheaper, similar and sometimes better quality in a not so popular or not so well known brand name?

I've always this was an interesting one, a good example is the Squier Classic Vibe series, people are afraid of the Squier logo that they avoid a good quality guitar for a reasonable price.

Discuss.
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#2
Hmm... I didn't really want to buy a B52 4x12 cab because I and everyone I knew had never heard of them before, even though it had V30's in it for like $400-500.
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#3
Word-of-mouth has a lot to do with it. What kills me is I have a friend that has a guitar and amp that ran him around $6,000 -- easy. Gibson Custom Les Paul and a pretty nice Marshall tube amp. Sounds terrible. My other friend has a Japanese brand guitar that starts with an "M" (never heard of it before) and a Johnson amp -- blows my other friend away. Most of it depends on the guitarist, not the gear.

Personally, I bought a Fender Squier Dissent Obey guitar (HSS basswood solid body, no pickguard). The guy at the music shop said noone would buy it because it was a Squier. Bought her, love her, will never part with her. The end.
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#4
I guess three factors come to mind:timidity, stupidity and commercialisation.

You see people are often scared to try out something that they know nothing of, thus they often buy the product that is usually known to work, even though its more expensive and sometimes not even as good.This is also known as the "timidity" factor.

Secondly, people are often ignorant and dont feel like looking for good and cheap things that might be more obscure and instantly buy the first thing they see or hear about.That is the "stupidity" factor.

The commercialisation factor is obviously tied to the first two and it never acts on its own because people need to possess either a lot of money, or one of the other two factors in order to create influence.

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#5
Artist impressions make a big impact to I think.

Biggest example would be Slash.
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#6
I'd rather buy boutique pedals and today I'm going to pick up an $1800 63' replica telecaster that I like better than fender.
#7
If people were willing to do a bit of research they would easily find many cheaper alternatives to big name brands which are just as good.

Artist impressions are abig part aswell, Im a huge slash fan so when the gibson and epiphone afds came out I was distraught to learn the epi was about £800, despite being a glorified custom with different pickups, so i did a bit of research and bought a vintage v100afd paradise for £300, it pisses all over any epi custom ive ever played and looks more faithful to slashes original than even the gibson afd.
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#8
What you really need to know is that when you buy a Fender or Gibson guitar, you're honestly not getting a true Fender or Gibson because they aren't the real guitars anymore. The original owners aren't alive and I know for a fact Fender got bought out I'm not sure about Gibson but you can look it up. When you buy a strat you are simply buying a strat shaped guitar made by people that work for fender and have the right to put the fender logo on. The builders and materials are no different from small brands.
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What you really need to know is that when you buy a Fender or Gibson guitar, you're honestly not getting a true Fender or Gibson because they aren't the real guitars anymore. The original owners aren't alive and I know for a fact Fender got bought out I'm not sure about Gibson but you can look it up. When you buy a strat you are simply buying a strat shaped guitar made by people that work for fender and have the right to put the fender logo on. The builders and materials are no different from small brands.

Exactly why I'm trying to trade my V for a new amp
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#10
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What you really need to know is that when you buy a Fender or Gibson guitar, you're honestly not getting a true Fender or Gibson because they aren't the real guitars anymore. The original owners aren't alive and I know for a fact Fender got bought out I'm not sure about Gibson but you can look it up. When you buy a strat you are simply buying a strat shaped guitar made by people that work for fender and have the right to put the fender logo on. The builders and materials are no different from small brands.

actually that's not entirely true with gibson and fender, because they aren't out-sourcing their own brand like they are with epiphone and squier respectively, they are making guitars in their own factories exclusively whereas a lot of smaller brands might not have their own factory thus will be outsourcing to factories that are making guitars for a whole load of other companies by the bucket load. although your point about different people working on the guitars in different factories with different resources and raw materials is completely spot on.

the thing with gibson is you could argue that even the '50s gibsons weren't the "real" gibsons, the real ones being those elaborately decorated archtop guitars (the world's first, allegedly) and mandolins made in the 1890s by orville gibson.

but to answer the question at hand, i think we're all influenced by other players and what they use if we like the sound they are getting out of that gear. that doesn't mean "trying to sound exactly like them", it's taking influence from their tone, not emulating their tone.
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#11
We all go through that phase I think, we all want to have the big Marshall stack and Gibson Les Paul because that's what our heroes have and maybe if we had it we could sound like them.

I think after sometime we realise that they'll endorse whoever will give them the goods, I think it's stupid to base what you buy on what other people have. Granted newer players will be more inclined to do so as they easily influenced and are new to it, but it's difficult to tell which artists are genuine in saying "This is seriously a good brand, I approve".

When you get to a certain point in playing, like I have, I couldn't give a damn if my guitar had a picture of a dog turd on the headstock, as long as it played, sounded and looked nice to me. Happy camper.
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#12
I just bought a dozen musicians friend picks for $2 with free shipping and they work and feel great. For $2 you can't go wrong with them. and they even gave me another pick for free.
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#13
if you don't know much about guitars you're often scared of the smaller brands in case they suck. I mean I'm a big fan of the smaller brands, some are great, but I wouldn't take pot luck with a brand i'd never heard of, either.
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#14
Don't get me wrong, some of them really do suck hard.

But there also well known brands that suck harder *cough* behringer *cough* line 6 *cough*
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#15
yep, sure.

I'm just trying to explain the thinking behind going with the big brands.
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#16
some big name brands don't even make guitars. they are simply marketing companies at this point since the original company was bought out years ago by corporations.

take ibanez for example, even their high end MIJ guitars aren't made in an actual ibanez facility, they are made at fugi-gen under ibanez licences.

same goes for gretsch, which is owned by fender, but the guitars are manufactured side by side with the ibanez stuff at fugi. i'm speaking of the MIJ gretsch and not the korean mfg which are as well not actually made by "gretsch". (and a host of other brands really i'm just using a couple examples)

that said, it doesn't really mean they aren't good guitars by any means, fugi makes some damn nice stuff and always has.
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#17
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We all go through that phase I think, we all want to have the big Marshall stack and Gibson Les Paul because that's what our heroes have and maybe if we had it we could sound like them.

I think after sometime we realise that they'll endorse whoever will give them the goods, I think it's stupid to base what you buy on what other people have. Granted newer players will be more inclined to do so as they easily influenced and are new to it, but it's difficult to tell which artists are genuine in saying "This is seriously a good brand, I approve".

that's not what i was saying at all. i don't mean "our heroes" that we want to sound exactly like, i mean hearing someone else get a sound you like out of a particular guitar, amp, pedal etc and that influencing what gear you decided to check out when you go to a guitar shop. i think it's stupid to base what you buy on what other people have too, but again, that's not what i meant.

i meant specific things about other people's tones that you hear and think "oh, i like that, maybe i can incorporate that into my own tone".
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#18
I just buy whatever I like. If I can't get my hands on it, talk to someone I can trust who has gotten their hands on it, or read/watch/listen to reviews, then I normally won't bother with it. Not because I am hating on a brand or timid, but I like proof and hard facts when it comes to me spending my money.
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#19
People trust names that have long bin in the industry, rather than little names that are still growing to become one.

As of me, I'd rather try everything I can get my hands on, then pick the one I "matched" on the most.

Its the Instrument that picks the Musician. Not the Musician picking the Instrument.

It's the old rule of getting the "BEST" for you. You just have to wait for the perfect match.

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#22
Ah, fair enough
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#23
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some big name brands don't even make guitars. they are simply marketing companies at this point since the original company was bought out years ago by corporations.

take ibanez for example, even their high end MIJ guitars aren't made in an actual ibanez facility, they are made at fugi-gen under ibanez licences.

same goes for gretsch, which is owned by fender, but the guitars are manufactured side by side with the ibanez stuff at fugi. i'm speaking of the MIJ gretsch and not the korean mfg which are as well not actually made by "gretsch". (and a host of other brands really i'm just using a couple examples)

that said, it doesn't really mean they aren't good guitars by any means, fugi makes some damn nice stuff and always has.


oh yeah, sure. If anything, i'm on the side of the smaller (but good quality) brands. I was just pointing out why most people go with the big brands.
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#24
I don't have a problem with choosing a small bran / unbranded guitar as long as it's good. ya know?
I had a Carlos brand guitar, It was really comfortable and really cheap too
#25
As for the big brand names thing:

When I bought my first proper guitar I went out to try out everything. I've been into the whole "I don't want something too mainstream looking" thing at the time.
So I tried out everything in the price range of under 1000€, picking up pretty much every guitar and the only one which really amazed me and the one I left with was a Fender American Special HSS.
I've not been into Strats or Fender in general at the moment, but I felt that was the best guitar for me for the price.
Yes, I tried a lot of small brand guitars too (Godin, G&L, Sterling, VGS, etc.), but I didn't find one that was a better value than the Fender (at least to me).

Also as for rock/metal guitars I can't find anything that comes close to a Gibson Faded series SG or Les Paul for the price tonewise. Those Gibsons are even made in the US, while most brands like LTD, Schecter, Ibanez still only have Asian made stuff in the price range.
Try to find a more affordable alternative for those which are as good or even better.
For the more expensive Gibsons like the Les Paul Standard and Custom there are cheaper alternatives (FGN, Tokai, etc.) which come pretty close though, but still aren't 100% there.

When looking for an amp now, I tried a lot of stuff already. I see there are smaller brands which make kick-ass amps (Jet City, Egnater) especially for the price, but I haven't played one amp, which sounds like e.g. a JCM800 (Reissue) for less money yet. If there are, they will probably cost more than the actual amp (unless you are in the US maybe).
The closest I think you can get are clones (speaking of amp clones like Ceriatone or self-built ones).
The only brand I can think of producing actual clones of popular amps for less money is Bugera, but those are also poorly built and won't last as long as the real thing most of the time. They have to save money somewhere too.

I'm not saying small brands don't make good guitars, I just don't see a reason in buying small brand stuff just for the sake of it.
If I'm looking for something that sounds and feels the way I like it, I will go for that option, no matter if I end up with a bunch of stupid Gibsons, Fenders and Marshalls or a bunch of Classic Vibe Squiers, Schecters and Blackstars.
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oh yeah, sure. If anything, i'm on the side of the smaller (but good quality) brands. I was just pointing out why most people go with the big brands.

i was just talking brands and misconceptions in general.
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#27
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#28
Is this one of those:

Gibson, Heritage, or Orville by Gibson?

My next guitar will be an ObG. I drool over the Heritage LPs.

That said, Yes you can get Gibson guitars better than Gibson makes them (Heritage) and ObG's at a fraction the cost but just as high (sometimes higher) quality.

Gibson Makes Les Pauls though, and when Gibson gets it right, Gibson has an instrument that's worth every penny. I don't think it's so much brand name, as being easily accessible.

Finding ObG's and Heritage guitars is easier said than done. Gibsons are plastered all over the wall in every neighborhood.

If you want a Les Paul, and you find a Gibson that plays to your needs, and is easily accessible.... Why not buy the Gibson?

If you want a Strat, and the Super strats don't strike a special chord, why not get a Fender?

Really, I think going brand name is as questionable as going non-brand name. Non-brand name items are usually much more difficult to get rid of.
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#29
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Is this one of those:

Gibson, Heritage, or Orville by Gibson?

My next guitar will be an ObG. I drool over the Heritage LPs.

That said, Yes you can get Gibson guitars better than Gibson makes them (Heritage) and ObG's at a fraction the cost but just as high (sometimes higher) quality.

Gibson Makes Les Pauls though, and when Gibson gets it right, Gibson has an instrument that's worth every penny. I don't think it's so much brand name, as being easily accessible.

Finding ObG's and Heritage guitars is easier said than done. Gibsons are plastered all over the wall in every neighborhood.

If you want a Les Paul, and you find a Gibson that plays to your needs, and is easily accessible.... Why not buy the Gibson?

If you want a Strat, and the Super strats don't strike a special chord, why not get a Fender?

Really, I think going brand name is as questionable as going non-brand name. Non-brand name items are usually much more difficult to get rid of.

i think that's actually part of the reason i have so many fenders - because that's basically the best thing that is easy to get hold of around here.

it's only really fenders that are readily available to me that actually meets my requirements - gibsons are actually a little harder to find even lol. most other stuff is either really not my sort of thing, or just entry level junk - of course there are a few exceptions like fret king, hamer, G&L, gretsch etc. that make some stuff i like a lot too, but they aren't as easy to find as fenders.
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#30
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that's not what i was saying at all. i don't mean "our heroes" that we want to sound exactly like, i mean hearing someone else get a sound you like out of a particular guitar, amp, pedal etc and that influencing what gear you decided to check out when you go to a guitar shop. i think it's stupid to base what you buy on what other people have too, but again, that's not what i meant.

i meant specific things about other people's tones that you hear and think "oh, i like that, maybe i can incorporate that into my own tone".

I agree completely, I was just offering my own opinion on the extreme side of the spectrum because you'd be surprised how many people have a mentality like that.
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#31
Just to throw this into the ring, you will find many famous guitarists that use 'brand name' guitars aren't actually using a guitar made by that company, but rather 'ghost-built' for them by a custom shop luthier. A good example of this is Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top. All those custom Gretsch guitars he plays sure as hell ain't made by Gretsch, they're out of the Bolin custom shop.
I also recall reading that many of Slash's Gibson guitars are in fact ghost builds with the Gibson logo slapped on the headstock, Slash fans feel free to chip in on this one as my memory is hazy.
The point is, often people will go out and buy a guitar because they have seen their idol using it, when in fact their idol is using a guitar made by a small custom shop who have just added a well-known brand name to the headstock.
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#32
Its just marketing costs that give off an image. Simple business 101 stuff. Why do people buy Cadillacs that are Chevys w leather and wood when a Kia would probably last longer?
#33
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As for the big brand names thing:

When I bought my first proper guitar I went out to try out everything. I've been into the whole "I don't want something too mainstream looking" thing at the time.
So I tried out everything in the price range of under 1000€, picking up pretty much every guitar and the only one which really amazed me and the one I left with was a Fender American Special HSS.
I've not been into Strats or Fender in general at the moment, but I felt that was the best guitar for me for the price.
Yes, I tried a lot of small brand guitars too (Godin, G&L, Sterling, VGS, etc.), but I didn't find one that was a better value than the Fender (at least to me).

Also as for rock/metal guitars I can't find anything that comes close to a Gibson Faded series SG or Les Paul for the price tonewise. Those Gibsons are even made in the US, while most brands like LTD, Schecter, Ibanez still only have Asian made stuff in the price range.
Try to find a more affordable alternative for those which are as good or even better.
For the more expensive Gibsons like the Les Paul Standard and Custom there are cheaper alternatives (FGN, Tokai, etc.) which come pretty close though, but still aren't 100% there.

When looking for an amp now, I tried a lot of stuff already. I see there are smaller brands which make kick-ass amps (Jet City, Egnater) especially for the price, but I haven't played one amp, which sounds like e.g. a JCM800 (Reissue) for less money yet. If there are, they will probably cost more than the actual amp (unless you are in the US maybe).
The closest I think you can get are clones (speaking of amp clones like Ceriatone or self-built ones).
The only brand I can think of producing actual clones of popular amps for less money is Bugera, but those are also poorly built and won't last as long as the real thing most of the time. They have to save money somewhere too.

I'm not saying small brands don't make good guitars, I just don't see a reason in buying small brand stuff just for the sake of it.
If I'm looking for something that sounds and feels the way I like it, I will go for that option, no matter if I end up with a bunch of stupid Gibsons, Fenders and Marshalls or a bunch of Classic Vibe Squiers, Schecters and Blackstars.

Good points, the only biff that I would have with it is that it would be cheaper without a brand on it i'm not going to try and estimate how much cheaper because I can't but I think a lot of the time you're paying for brand name.

Not saying I hate Gibson or any of the other "big" brand names, I own a couple of them, but it's hard to make exact clones due to copyright issues so you can never really get a genuine copy without it being illegal.

Unless you make your own of course.
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#34
its all about the power of marketing and to a lesser extent availability. everyone knows fender, gibson and marshall as they have been in rock since the beginning and are heavily advertised. people also tend to go with what they know for various psycological reasons. advertisers count on this. of course musicians are often not made out of money so once again go for what they are led to believe will be good.

availability is the other factor. the big brands can be found in almost any shop many of the smaller ones may not be available at all in your area. like a great many other players i really want to try out any piece of gear that i buy to be sure it's what i want. i'm a little luckier than many as there are several different guitar stores im my area and i have access to some of the lesser known brands. having said that there are still many that just aren't carried around here.

myself i'll try anything and if it works for me then i could care less about a name. i love to come across guitars from companies that i've never played. i'll try out amps and fx if possilbe as well.
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Good points, the only biff that I would have with it is that it would be cheaper without a brand on it i'm not going to try and estimate how much cheaper because I can't but I think a lot of the time you're paying for brand name.

Not saying I hate Gibson or any of the other "big" brand names, I own a couple of them, but it's hard to make exact clones due to copyright issues so you can never really get a genuine copy without it being illegal.

Unless you make your own of course.

Well, I don't care about paying for the name too much if they produce the kind of gear I want for what in my opinion is a reasonable price.
Also I don't care buying small brand stuff if the product that is inferior to the big brand stuff just for the sake of it.

I think big brand products aren't overpriced, in fact I think it's easier for big brands to put out good products for the money, since they have good resources for wood and other parts, a big arsenal of (skilled) builders and so on.
#36
Overpriced would mean different things to different people, of course i'm not generalizing or trying to but I would imagine that a lot of the "sought" after gear is in quite a high price point for what you're getting.

Or maybe it's just because I live in Australia and everything's $1,000 extra than normal
But i do agree with you completely on money not being an object if the right gear is produced.
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#37
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Overpriced would mean different things to different people, of course i'm not generalizing or trying to but I would imagine that a lot of the "sought" after gear is in quite a high price point for what you're getting.

Or maybe it's just because I live in Australia and everything's $1,000 extra than normal
But i do agree with you completely on money not being an object if the right gear is produced.

Overpriced is also a matter where you live.
In the UK (and most parts of Europe in General) Marshalls are pretty well priced and Mesa Boogies are overpriced, while in the US it's the other way round.
In Australia as you say pretty much everything is overpriced.
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Overpriced would mean different things to different people, of course i'm not generalizing or trying to but I would imagine that a lot of the "sought" after gear is in quite a high price point for what you're getting.

Or maybe it's just because I live in Australia and everything's $1,000 extra than normal
But i do agree with you completely on money not being an object if the right gear is produced.

are you taking exchange rates into consideration? i don't think australian dollars and US dollars are the same currency even though they have the same name and symbol.
I like analogue Solid State amps that make no effort to be "tube-like", and I'm proud of it...

...A little too proud, to be honest.
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You're both absolutely right.
Although the Aussie dollar is better than the US (only slightly) it doesn't mean it's much cheaper for us. Distributors jack up the prices due to importing/exporting costs which kinds sucks for everyone else, it'd be much better for us if we could cut out the middle man but we can't do that.

But i hope you're not mistaking this as hate on bigger brands, i just found it an interesting debate on brand names influence on purchase
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I also recall reading that many of Slash's Gibson guitars are in fact ghost builds with the Gibson logo slapped on the headstock, Slash fans feel free to chip in on this one as my memory is hazy.

I know the guitar he used to record AFD was a fake Gibson. Can't speak to the others he's used. Something tells me they are actual Gibsons.


Don't get me started on the Marshall thing