#1
I have the Gibson green key tuners and basically every time I do any bend on the higher strings I'll go out of tune. Not a lot but enough to make me have to retune. So I'm looking for something that will improve that and something I can install myself at home, so I don't want to drill or anything like that. Thanks brothers.
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#2
Try taking a pencil and put some graphite into the nut groves so the strings slide and return to the point they started after you bend the string.
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#3
I have done that before but it's been a while so I will do it again, but I have read the gibson green key tuners are pretty awful.
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#4
i think your problem has more to do with your tun-o-matic bridge, they are notorious for falling slightly outta tune.

but the higher end tuners that gibson used to use were grovers.
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#5
I would use either Schaller, Grover, or Sperzel as they're more accurate and effective, I'm currently using Grover tuning pegs on my SG and i barely go out of tune when i string bend
#8
You have an SG standard and it keeps it in tune? Could you install those without drilling? Thanks man.
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#9
Well, to be honest mines a heavily modded Epiphone SG-310, but it keeps it in tune yeah.
With installation I'm not 100% sure because I got my local guitar shop to install them for me
#10
I yanked the green keys off of my SG Standard and replaced them with these guys:
http://www.allparts.com/Grover-3x3-Nickel-Rotomatics-p/tk-7901-001.htm

Same shape, no more booger green, and they're solid as a rock. The entire process takes about 30 minutes and all you need is a screwdriver (and maybe pliers/wrench for removing the washers if they're on tight). You'll only use one screw per key, as opposed to two screws for the green keys. That means you'll have 6 empty screw holes on the back of your headstock, but honestly I don't notice mine and they don't cause any problems.
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#11
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I yanked the green keys off of my SG Standard and replaced them with these guys:
http://www.allparts.com/Grover-3x3-Nickel-Rotomatics-p/tk-7901-001.htm

Same shape, no more booger green, and they're solid as a rock. The entire process takes about 30 minutes and all you need is a screwdriver (and maybe pliers/wrench for removing the washers if they're on tight). You'll only use one screw per key, as opposed to two screws for the green keys. That means you'll have 6 empty screw holes on the back of your headstock, but honestly I don't notice mine and they don't cause any problems.


This looks good, does it come with directions and stuff?
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#12
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This looks good, does it come with directions and stuff?

I don't really know, but in case it doesn't here are my directions for the swap:

1. Remove strings
2. unscrew with a screwdriver all of the tiny screws on the back of the tuning keys (2 screws each, can't miss 'em)
3. unscrew with your fingers (or pliers if they're tight) the washers around the post on the front side of the headstock
4. at this point they should just fall out, you might have to push a tiny bit
5. do this backwards with the Grovers, except you'll only need one screw on the back side for each.

It's seriously so easy you can't mess it up. Trust me, I mess things up. A lot. You can't mess this up. Good luck!
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#13
Quote by Sid McCall
I don't really know, but in case it doesn't here are my directions for the swap:

1. Remove strings
2. unscrew with a screwdriver all of the tiny screws on the back of the tuning keys (2 screws each, can't miss 'em)
3. unscrew with your fingers (or pliers if they're tight) the washers around the post on the front side of the headstock
4. at this point they should just fall out, you might have to push a tiny bit
5. do this backwards with the Grovers, except you'll only need one screw on the back side for each.

It's seriously so easy you can't mess it up. Trust me, I mess things up. A lot. You can't mess this up. Good luck!


Hey thanks I'm gonna order these tomorrow
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#14
i have an SG White Jazz that came with Grovers standard. iirc its a 2004. just get a tuner you don't need to drill to fit. that way if you sell your guitar, you put the green tuners back on, and keep the grover set for another guitar.

i will say i hate shaller locking tuners, two of them broke in the first month, and shcaller had terrible customer service, and i had to suck up a loss on that one.
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