#1
i'm kinda looking into one, just for fun. i have a 6505 and a Vader cab currently, so that's a bit loud for here.

i'm play mostly metal, so am looking for one with a bit of gain. i have considered the kustom defender, epi valve jr, and the blackheart heads.] i know with a single preamp tube its kinda hard to get much out of it. i have a maxon od9 though, so i could drive the preamp pretty well.

imaybe ill just stick with the microcube when i can't let the vader shake the house down
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#3
What sort of wattage are we speaking? Anything around 20w I'd say the Silverblade Hellhound or the Krankenstein Jr would be your best bet. PM Fred The Shred on here, I believe he has the Hellhound, he can tell you a bit more.
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#4
None of those amps (nor any low wattage amps AFAIK) are going to get anywhere near the amount of gain the 6505 has. I'd look into a modeler like the Peavey Vypyr, as they sound really good at very low volumes.

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#5
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None of those amps (nor any low wattage amps AFAIK) are going to get anywhere near the amount of gain the 6505 has. I'd look into a modeler like the Peavey Vypyr, as they sound really good at very low volumes.


Really?

I played a couple of Jaden Roses through the Silverblade at MonkeyFest and the amount of gain was unbelievable.
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#9
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i'm play mostly metal, so am looking for one with a bit of gain. i have considered the kustom defender, epi valve jr, and the blackheart heads.] i know with a single preamp tube its kinda hard to get much out of it. i have a maxon od9 though, so i could drive the preamp pretty well.

You will not get a good metal sound out of any of these, no matter how much you boost them. In fact, I found the distortion from my cranked/boosted BH5 and VJ to be, well, dreadful. A Blackheart Handsome Devil might be the exception (don't really know, haven't tried it, but clips suggest that while it's not a gain-monster, it gets more preamp-drive than other Blackhearts or the Epi and Kustom), but at 15w, it isn't really "mini" anymore.

If you want a good high-gain tone out of any of these, you'd be better off running a distortion pedal in front of them. Low-wattage amps that have a good bit of preamp-gain available are few and far between, and as long as we are talking about stuff under 10w that is mass-produced and easily available (and relatively cheap), only the Blackstar HT5 comes to mind... and I'd rather take my chances with a Blackheart/Kustom/Epi and a good distortion pedal (simply because the HT5 is a bit pricey imo).
#10
AcousticMirror is indeed making amps, mine's being built right now, but its not cheap. He does seem to like gain monsters though so he could definitely build one to sound like you want
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#13
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AcousticMirror is indeed making amps, mine's being built right now, but its not cheap. He does seem to like gain monsters though so he could definitely build one to sound like you want

slo?
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#16
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AcousticMirror is indeed making amps, mine's being built right now, but its not cheap. He does seem to like gain monsters though so he could definitely build one to sound like you want


meh, chinese junk. bet the caps suck.
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#18
look, i love hating on AM, but seriously: you don't want a chinese made amp...

getting something made in chicago from the 50's with pentode preamp tubes.

now what is this thread about? oh, min's amps. don't buy em.
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#19
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look, i love hating on AM, but seriously: you don't want a chinese made amp...

getting something made in chicago from the 50's with pentode preamp tubes.

now what is this thread about? oh, min's amps. don't buy em.

But they are made in 'Merica so there goes that theory :P

I think Zoot Allures has an opinion about AM's stuff, ask his advice
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#20
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But they are made in 'Merica so there goes that theory :P

I think Zoot Allures has an opinion about AM's stuff, ask his advice


made in 'merica when he ain't visiting his parents. yeah, ask Min's sometimes lover/ultimate fanboi. the sexual tension between those 2 is palpable.
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#21
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made in 'merica when he ain't visiting his parents. yeah, ask Min's sometimes lover/ultimate fanboi. the sexual tension between those 2 is palpable.

Call me Dom
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#24
i've played the blackstar ht5 and ht1 through a 4x12, both sounded great - surprised by the ht1 - max cranked at very quiet volumes - run a OD pedal infront would get a great tone
#25
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made in china amps are for domestic market use only.
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#26
All min does is make amps. He never stops.
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#27
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made in china amps are for domestic market use only.


oh crap, he showed up.
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#28
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oh crap, he showed up.


You guys said his name like 3 times. That's the only way to call him.
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#29
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You guys said his name like 3 times. That's the only way to call him.

And now we have to sacrifice our high gain amps to the Chinese gods, or Min will take vengeance on us..
#30
what both you say is true, we should have never taunted Min in our arrogance.
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#31
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what both you say is true, we should have never taunted Min in our arrogance.

May the amp gods help us now..
#32
this is probably the funniest thread jacking i've seen in along time. well done guys
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#33
Why not look at an attenuator? Not to mention, with all the preamp gain in your 6505, it's not like you need to crank it to get a metal tone :P
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