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Hello again, Just something else i would like to throw out there. Im curious on other peoples opinions of entry level guitars (around the £100-£200 mark) what do you guys think of them? and how do they measure up to the more expensive guitars? The thing is i have a Stagg X300 and once i had set it up properly and put new strings on it the guitar is just briliiant. I have a BC rich Ironbird 1 which is a little bit more expensive and in my honest opinion i think the Stagg has a much nicer sound. Any of you guys found the same thing?
#2
I like cheap guitars. So long as you avoid the extremely cheap ones (the type which come as a full package including amp for about £80) there are a lot of very good buys out there. I have a Stagg Mockingbird and think its quite good, and a Gould LP and think it's awesome. I also have a couple of guitars made by Wesley which I enjoy.

I've had a few Gibsons, Gretsch's and Fenders over the years, but I think I enjoy playing cheap guitars more. With the expensive guitars I never felt I was doing them justice (I'm not a brilliant player), and was always concerned about damaging them. With cheap guitars I'm much more relaxed and find that helps my playing.
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#3
Some cheap guitars are gems, but most are just that... a cheap guitar.

I have a G-400 that cost $299 new and with a p/u swap is an extreamly good guitar.
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Some cheap guitars are gems, but most are just that... a cheap guitar.


+1

sometimes you'll just come across a good one, or a model which is good with a few upgrades. But a lot of the time, the cost of the upgrades would just have bought you a better guitar which already had the upgrades.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#5
I still have my first guitar, a cheap Squier Strat. It doesn't stay in tune for a song, it sounds horrible... but it feels better than most expensive guitars I have tried. Really easy and smooth to play. I sometimes practice on it unplugged when I don't want to play my main guitar.

I also used to have an Ibanez GRG170DX: another great entry-level guitar. Extremely comfortable and it sounded very good, almost like a $700+ guitar. I kinda wish I still had it, because it was amazing for the price.
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I really don't like cheap guitars. Mainly because they all have poor tuners and parts that wear out easy. I'm willing to pay for guitars that have real good hardware and electronics. My favorite guitar that I own has Seymour Duncan pickups, grover tuners and an original floyd rose bridge. Was worth every penny and there's not a cheap guitar I've played that can rival it. Friend of mine has 2 American Custom Strats. They blow away any squier.

Don't get me wrong, cheap guitars are good if you're beginning or if you just need something to play. But if you want a real investment that is going to last you, I'd always advise to pay for good quality. Not saying you should pay $1,500+ on every guitar, just know the difference between cheap and value-for-the-money.
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Not saying you should pay $1,500+ on every guitar, just know the difference between cheap and value-for-the-money.


yep, exactly.
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now what i'm about to say is a massive generalisation but here's the way i see it:

if you get a cheap guitar set up properly with the frets levelled and the nut cut properly or replaced completely if it's a crap nut, it can play as well as any high end guitar. throwing in some nice pickups can really improve the sound, too.

however that doesn't change the fact that it's a cheap guitar, it still has its limitations and by the time you've spent all that time and money improving a cheap guitar you'd probably have been better off just getting something better quality in the first place, imo. although it depends on the guitar in question really.
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now what i'm about to say is a massive generalisation but here's the way i see it:

if you get a cheap guitar set up properly with the frets levelled and the nut cut properly or replaced completely if it's a crap nut, it can play as well as any high end guitar. throwing in some nice pickups can really improve the sound, too.

however that doesn't change the fact that it's a cheap guitar, it still has its limitations and by the time you've spent all that time and money improving a cheap guitar you'd probably have been better off just getting something better quality in the first place, imo. although it depends on the guitar in question really.

This is a very good way to put it, with out bashing budget friendly guitars.

But to add one thing the quality of the tone woods, will never be as good.
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#10
Take a look at the Squier Classic Vibe Telecasters. Amazing guitar for the money. Good guitars don't have to cost a ton of money.
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now what i'm about to say is a massive generalisation but here's the way i see it:

if you get a cheap guitar set up properly with the frets levelled and the nut cut properly or replaced completely if it's a crap nut, it can play as well as any high end guitar. throwing in some nice pickups can really improve the sound, too.



I absolutely agree. I have fixed up tons of cheapy guitars by leveling the frets and setting them up. After the work. the owners of these guitars are floored by how well their old instruments play. Having a level set of frets and a good setup is really 75% of what makes a good guitar (other things include cosmetics, good pickups, proper weight and balance--which is very rare, even in higher end guitars, etc.).

Anyway, having said that, I would recommend to the OP the low-end Yamaha Pacifica guitars. They are very high quality for the price and I'm pretty sure they only cost in the neighborhood of $150 (and hopefully for the OP the dollar becomes weaker due to the lower interest rates recently imposed by the Fed).
#12
The key to finding a good cheap guitar isn't research, it's hands on. I've played some Squiers (even affinities) that I look up at the store tech and give him the "Why's this play so damned good?" face. Then there have been some Deluxe MIM Strats where I do the exact opposite.

Just play around until you find the one that the shop accidentally made into a gem.
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