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#1
Im gonna get a modeling amp and i was looking at these amps:

Line 6 spider IV 75 watt (prob not)

Peavey vypyr 75 watt

Vox Valvetronix+ 80 Watt

I am just wondering which has the most brutal dist. or overdrive.
#2
Peavey Vypyr.
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Cube 80XL
Randall RM100 (if you can call that a modeling amp..)
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I second the vypyr. i wouldn't worry about the most brutal distortion, but the vypyr has the best tone of the 3 imo.
#7
vypyr, spider sounds too digital, and valvetronix can't handle well high gain, personally I prefer Fender Mustang, the Vypyr is slightly better for metal, but the mustang is better at other tones, plus, more wattage and a celestion speaker for the same price.
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Peavey Vypyrs IMO are horrible - thats just my opinion though. I plugged up through a couple at the shop and was simply disgusted.

The Vox Valvetronix line is awesome but the + ones are a little lacking. If you can find an Vox AD30 Valvetronix(VT), those are the older ones and sound much better.

Roland Cubes are pretty brutal, very nice metal tone for a solid state.

Dont go with the Line 6 Spider unless its a Link 6 Spider Valve - The SS are shitty but the Valves are phenomenal.
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#11
The Cube is definitely brutal enough for all types of metal, but it has a little more digital tone compared to the Vypyr. Still a amazing amp though, I had one for 3 years and it was great.
#12
What do you mean by "brutal"? You're basing your amp purchase only on amount of gain? That's not a smart approach.

The Vypyr would be the best for metal IMO. Also take a look at the Roland cube series.
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#13
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bet spider valves and perhaps Randall T2 are out of TS budget



T2 isnt a modeling amp either.
#14
The vypyr is pretty awesome for a modelling amp in my opinion especially once you come to grips with the controls you can get some decent tones
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The Cube is definitely brutal enough for all types of metal, but it has a little more digital tone compared to the Vypyr. Still a amazing amp though, I had one for 3 years and it was great.

+1 I've had my cube for 4 years and it still works and sounds great.
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#16
If you have enough budget then the Line 6 DT50 and POD500HD. A review I read had one lined up next to a JCM800 and they couldn't tell the difference apparently. Otherwise I hear the Vypyr is pretty good for distortion.
#18
The Roland Cubes are the only modeling amps I've played through (at Guitar Center) that produced a tone pleasing to my ears - and I was going through pedals in front of it. But I'm not really a fan of amp modeling in the first place (I don't think the technology has been sufficiently developed to be quite that good yet), so I can't give a particularly constructive suggestion (as I feel the temptation to say "screw that" and suggest boutique tube amps).

All I can say in good faith is that my ears tell me that the Cubes aren't bad for a solid state modeler.
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Maybe, but the Spider has the most insane tone.

If insane means complete shit sound, yes
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If insane means complete shit sound, yes


It was a joke. He was referring to the spider's infamous "insane' amp model.
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#22
dude go for an MG it has the crushing overdrive


on a serious note go with the roland cube
#23
I bought a used Peavey Triple X at Guitar Center for 300.00. I have a Pod xt Live and A Pod HD500 and I can tell you that the Triple X has a much warmer and better tone than the Pods and it will give you a more brutal sound anyday. The triple X has tons of distortion I turn the gain to about 3 or 4 and it is very very heavy.

I have played around with modelers and I can tell you get a tube amp for metal and you will be much happier. B-52 AT-100 is another cheap and very brutal sounding high gain amp that is cheap. I have played both amps and both are very good high gain tube amps.
#24
My budget is only around $200. Im not looking for anything really special but just something i can do small gigs on and use for practise at home. Im open to a cheap tube i guess.
#25
A Vypyr 75 used is your best bet. I had one for a while; it was very, very loud.
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#26
Might be able to find a used Peavey Valveking for 200 to 250 they are pretty good metal amps.
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Might be able to find a used Peavey Valveking for 200 to 250 they are pretty good metal amps.

1. not an modeling amp
2. awful for brt00tz.


TS I'd look into the most expensive Vypyr you can afford.
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The Peavey Vypyr might be a better choice though, since you need metalcore too. It sounds the best out of what you want listed. The spider has more gain, and it's more "brootal", but it doesn't sound nearly as good. It's important to remember that gain ≠ tone. So that's something you'll have to decide for yourself in the store.
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#30
Quote by epiphone316
Im gonna get a modeling amp and i was looking at these amps:

Line 6 spider IV 75 watt (prob not)

Peavey vypyr 75 watt

Vox Valvetronix+ 80 Watt

I am just wondering which has the most brutal dist. or overdrive.

Vox ad100vt-xl
Used of course they dont make them any more
The xl series from vox was there high gain series better than a vypyr, spider, new vox vt.

Or a used line 6 flextone.
If you want a tube amp up your budget to $400-500 and start looking for used 2x12 5150s.
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#31
I've owned a couple of roland cubes and they are good practice amps, but I must say that I'm most impressed with the tone of the peavey vypyr models--the 30 watt one can be had for $199 and it sounds great.
#32
peavey vypr wins out of your options. but if you can go with the vypr tube. or a 6505 112.
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#33
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Maybe, but the Spider has the most insane tone.

Lmao

edit: ditch modelling, 6505 112 go
#34
Line 6 Spider Valve or Peavey Vyper Tube

EDIT : And the L6 HD147,Line6 Vetta, Flextone
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#35
Quote by stonyman65
Cube 80XL
Randall RM100 (if you can call that a modeling amp..)

Yes. The RM100 does, in fact, mimic or "model" the sound of other amps.

It's approximately this brutal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-FvrhQS7s4&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuUGYjqCHMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXrHXYdpZno
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#36
im selling a flextone if your interested. its got the probably the best of line 6's models from br00tz to jazz n stuff. 75 w, loud, great bass response. only thing , bass is a little loose on the high gain models so an OD is nice to drive it a bit. also, upgraded to wgs v30 speaker clone
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Yes. The RM100 does, in fact, mimic or "model" the sound of other amps.

It's approximately this brutal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-FvrhQS7s4&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuUGYjqCHMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXrHXYdpZno



but its important to note that its not digital, the "modules" are actually copies of the guts of the pre amps of the amp they r replicating.

and the Ola Englund vid u showed, shows just awesome it can be.
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#40
+1 to whoever mentioned used Flextone

I suggest looking into POD HD 300, even better modeling (pre amp), you can use it to record, practice (through headphones or POD->PA)
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