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Okay. So, I'm in the mood to buy some more gear. I currently own two Peavey 5150 2x12 combo amps, a 5150 4x12 cab, and just a generic 4x12 (with a few guitars, but I want another amp ) I love my 5150s, but I don't know what I should buy next. I'm thinking about getting a 5150 or 6505 head (used, of course, because I can't afford new), but is there really any tone differences between the combo and the head? Especially considering that I run the 2x12 combo through the 5150 4x12 cab? So, this is also what I'm considering, and I don't want any other suggestions please.

A Marshall JCM900 4100, and a Marshall JCM2000 DSL100 and a TSL100. I'm not looking for a super high gain "modern metal" tone. More of an old school thrashy tone, I suppose is what you'd call it. I've been in a band where we used the TSL100 for recording our first album, and it sounded great, but I've never tried the JCM900 4100 or the DSL100. I've heard the DSL100 is a bit more meaty and I've also heard the 900 get bad reviews because of something called "diode clipping". I mainly use a guitar with DiMarzio D Activator-X pickups and a Seymour Duncan Blackout preamp, so the thing runs HOT (it's an Epiphone Les Paul Standard). Because of this, I tend to get fairly nice gain out of lower gain to mid gain amps simply because of the output of my pickups.

Like I said, I'm not looking for the super high gain, scooped tone of most metal these days. More of a mid range bite and a nice thrash-like crunch (Rain In Blood by Slayer, Kill 'Em All by Metallica, Evil Invaders by Razor, and some of the early death metal albums by Death and Morbid Angel and the like).

Thanks!
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#3
Check out Splawn. It's like a better Marshall. The Nitro or Quick Rod would be best for you.
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I have never tried the JCM 900 but i think it could be good for what you want it for, especially if you mod it. I would not recommend the DSL and the TSL. Perhaps a JCM 800 with a boost. There are 4 models. 2203 (100 watt single channel), 2204 (50 watt single channel), 2205 (Double channel, 50 watt with diode clipping) and 2210 (100 watt double channel with diode clipping). There is also a Kerry King signature model, which is not as good imo.
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Quote by RockGuitarist09
I have never tried the JCM 900 but i think it could be good for what you want it for, especially if you mod it. I would not recommend the DSL and the TSL. Perhaps a JCM 800 with a boost. There are 4 models. 2203 (100 watt single channel), 2204 (50 watt single channel), 2205 (Double channel, 50 watt with diode clipping) and 2210 (100 watt double channel with diode clipping). There is also a Kerry King signature model, which is not as good imo.

Thanks for all the info, man.
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Out of the Marshalls you listed the DSL is easily the best for what you are after.

Why don't you just make a heashell for one of your combos and swap over the chassis?
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Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
^ where you been mang?


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what is on your craigslist (i know i know) and 'local' guitar center used sections? anything? anything at all? beuller?

Thank you for the welcome. Nothing good on Craigslist. A Bugera, then just a bunch of cheap stuff.
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Quote by zakkwyldefan79
This needs to be over in GG&A, So I'll move it for you.

My bad. Sorry.
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#13
Quote by guitarpatrick66
Try and find a JCM 800 used. Also look into possibly getting new speakers for the peaveys.

I looked for 800s, can't find any within my price range.
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Quote by Cathbard
Out of the Marshalls you listed the DSL is easily the best for what you are after.

Why don't you just make a heashell for one of your combos and swap over the chassis?

Cuz I'm lazy haha. Yeah, I tried out a TSL100 the other day and really liked it, so I think it's going between the TSL and DSL now. I heard that the 900 runs like a solid-state at low volumes? Is that true? If so, that totally makes me uninterested in it.
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#15
Look at the Peavey windsor head (JCM 800 clone) its about $400 new. If your gonna look at marshall, look at the 800 or Plexi
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Quote by Robbgnarly
Look at the Peavey windsor head (JCM 800 clone) its about $400 new. If your gonna look at marshall, look at the 800 or Plexi

I've been considering the Windsor. . .
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Quote by SwampAshSpecial
Early Metallica and stuff was old Marshalls (70s JMPs and Plexis) boosted, so check out any kind of old marshall style amp (Peavey Windsor is a good idea) plus an OD Pedal.

But would the Windsor be better than, say, a real DSL100/TSL100 or JCM900?
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#20
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
They go for liek $250 used. Buy two of them.

use the link in my sig to find gear - people will ship.

hit up the gear forums too: ug, rig-talk, harmony central, etc

I might just do that haha. More gear is ALWAYS the answer, right?
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#21
Quote by Cross Pain
But would the Windsor be better than, say, a real DSL100/TSL100 or JCM900?

Its very different... IMHO yes. The newer Marshalls are nowhere near as good as the JCM800 and previous amps IMO. Others may disagree with me, and some newer Marshall amps disprove that (JVM) but as a rule, old marshall > new marshall and the Windsor is essentially an 800 clone. Its a matter of personal preference really.
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Quote by SwampAshSpecial
Its very different... IMHO yes. The newer Marshalls are nowhere near as good as the JCM800 and previous amps IMO. Others may disagree with me, and some newer Marshall amps disprove that (JVM) but as a rule, old marshall > new marshall and the Windsor is essentially an 800 clone. Its a matter of personal preference really.

Well, I need to upgrade with a new cab as well. So, as far as getting the most out of my money, would two Windsor heads and another 5150 4x12 cab be best?
Jackson RR24
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