#1
First off, I searchbarred this and came up with nothing on topic, but spent the morning learning a bunch of good off-topic stuff.
I'll Google later, but wanted the UG userbase expertise before going there...

Question: How can you make sure you don't get a piece of crap if you buy a used dynamic mic (like at a pawnshop or music store)? Are there any ways to test it short of plugging it into a loud PA and doing a test recording through your recording rig?

Thinking about picking up a Shure 55 at a pawnshop for $135, but don't want to get ripped off...

Thanks.
Last edited by jetwash69 at Aug 29, 2011,
#3
Buying from a pawnshop is a stupid, stupid idea. You'll pay way more than you have to. Go buy from a local music store, ebay, or musician's friend or something. Most dynamic mics, especially Shures, are very rugged to the point of being difficult to break. I've seen people use SM57 and 58s as hammers before a show, seen them dropped in water, etc. They're made to take a beating.

And look up reviews, youtube them, etc, before buying them to be sure you get what you want.
#4
Quote by CrossBack7
Buying from a pawnshop is a stupid, stupid idea. You'll pay way more than you have to. Go buy from a local music store, ebay, or musician's friend or something. Most dynamic mics, especially Shures, are very rugged to the point of being difficult to break. I've seen people use SM57 and 58s as hammers before a show, seen them dropped in water, etc. They're made to take a beating.

And look up reviews, youtube them, etc, before buying them to be sure you get what you want.


OK, I'm a little confused by your post.

First, I already have an SM57 and an SM58 (both bought at Guitar Center on sale new), and yeah, they're tough. But the SM58 feeds back everywhere we've used it live (with and without stage monitors) before we get the gain we want.

All the research I've done says that the 55 gets you more gain before feedback than you'd get with most other dynamics.

The pawnshop was asking $135, but perhaps I could talk them down a bit if they don't sell it for a long time. Music stores have them new for $180 - $240. The cheapest one I found with buy-it-now on eBay was $135 (including shipping), and they go up to $750 used (that one must be vintage).

So here's how I'm confused:

- If it's in good condition, then how would I be paying more than I have to if I get it for the same price as the eBay's cheapest?
- You make the undisputible point that SM57s and 58s are durable. Would you say despite that, it would be dumb to take a chance of a 55 (which seems even more durable) not working right if I found it at a pawnshop?

BTW, my experience with pawnshop guitars was I bought a $700 Schecter for $350. It didn't have strings and was missing a pad in the floyd rose and had some superficial pick scratches. The pad cost $1 from Stew Mac, a set of Ernie Balls cost $3.50, and I already had car polish on hand. 2 hours later and you couldn't tell it wasn't brand new.
#5
No, I'm sure that the 55 from the pawnshop would be fine, I just know that most of the time, you can find a better price elsewhere. But if they have the best price, and it's the mic you want, then go for it.

Usually, pawn shops are there to make a profit, so whoever sold it to them must have sold it dirt cheap for them to be reselling at that price.
#6
Quote by CrossBack7
No, I'm sure that the 55 from the pawnshop would be fine, I just know that most of the time, you can find a better price elsewhere. But if they have the best price, and it's the mic you want, then go for it.

Usually, pawn shops are there to make a profit, so whoever sold it to them must have sold it dirt cheap for them to be reselling at that price.


they usualy buy stuff 25% internet worth and then resale for 50%-75% that price.
#7
Quote by ShevanelFlip
they usualy buy stuff 25% internet worth and then resale for 50%-75% that price.



OK, so sounds like they're asking a bit much for it and I shouldn't get it unless I can talk them down 25 to 50%.

Wait...so 50%-75% of "internet worth" as in the internet price for brand new, or internet price for used?

Regarding my original question, it's looking like the consesus is:

I can bring a pre-amp and powered monitor in to test it and if it works at all, then chances are it's all good.

???
#8
i don't know the prices in america but i recently bought 2 sm57 mic's for $140 a piece, in a music store. buying a used mic for the price of a new one is just stupid. besides you never know why the previous owner sold it. what if it was used to record the 'squatch spalsh frrrt frrrrt ft ft ft ft ft ft' sounds of a cheap porno and has ugly-woman-juice all over it? or they just sold it because the quality of the recording has reduced since they first used it?

EDIT : sorry, i searched the price (should of done that first i know) and i didn't realize the 55 was that much more expensive. i guess i made the unjustified assumption the 55 and 57 are about the same because the type only has a 2 number difference. sm 57 is good tho but if you want a 55 there's not really a point in buying a 57
Last edited by vince1991 at Aug 30, 2011,
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Quote by vince1991
i don't know the prices in america but i recently bought 2 sm57 mic's for $140 a piece, in a music store. buying a used mic for the price of a new one is just stupid. besides you never know why the previous owner sold it. what if it was used to record the 'squatch spalsh frrrt frrrrt ft ft ft ft ft ft' sounds of a cheap porno and has ugly-woman-juice all over it? or they just sold it because the quality of the recording has reduced since they first used it?

EDIT : sorry, i searched the price (should of done that first i know) and i didn't realize the 55 was that much more expensive. i guess i made the unjustified assumption the 55 and 57 are about the same because the type only has a 2 number difference. sm 57 is good tho but if you want a 55 there's not really a point in buying a 57



LOL! Great post, Vince.

Got an SM57 already for micing my guitar cab. The idea for the 55 is to get more gain before feedback than we get with our SM58 in live performances. We got digital drums and we're having to play them and the guitar lower than we'd like so the crowd can hear the vocals.

If I go back to the pawnshop for that Shure, I'll have to bring a forensics kit and a blacklight in addition to the PA gear and make sure there's no "juices" on it from either gender. I've never heard of anyone using a 55 as a video mic, but they could have used it as a "device". Can't be too careful.

Thanks for creeping me out.
#10
Quote by jetwash69

Thanks for creeping me out.


no problem. creeping people out is my number 1 hobby.

to make up for the useless post :
i did some searching and this is what popped up.

$139 with free shipping in 5 to 7 days
http://www.shuremicrophone-sale.com/shure-55sh-series-ii-cardioid-dynamic-microphone-p-6.html

$179 incl. shipping. oh and gift-wrap is available!
http://www.amazon.com/Shure-Iconic-Unidyne-Vocal-Microphone/dp/B0002GZKWU

also $179
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/shure-55sh-series-ii-mic

there are some cheap ones on ebay. only $60 but again, there are some sick basterds out there so be careful friend
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=shure+55s


i don't know about the reliability of those websites but this is all i can do to help. it looks pretty thrust worthy tho but in the world we live in a lot if things aren't what they seem to be.
you can either risk it or save up some money to buy one in a music store

good luck