#1
Hi Guys

Please feel free to direct me to the search function if i've been a complete noob/lazy and missed that.

I'm in the market for a new guitar, and I've been looking at the SG as an option. I'm after what I would generally describe as an all-round guitar. Though forced to narrow that awkward term down a bit I would say I'm looking for blues/rock/metal.

I think than an SG would fit the bill quite nicely, however on the models in my price range (new at least) the SG 60's Tribute would probably be about as far up the scale as I could go. I'm not by any means a gear head, so I'm struggling really with the question of whether or not the SG would fit the bill for metal. When I say metal, I'm basically talking Metallica kind of stuff. I've read on a forum here where someone was after a similar kind of guitar that a few people have quoted the SG as an axe that would fit the bill. However the 60s tribute SG comes with P90 pick ups (and keep in mind I said I wasn't a gear nut) but I'm concerned that these aren't really going to be beefy enough for me to get a decent tone when I'm playing 'Metallica style' metal.

Now, it's not the end of the world if this is the case, as I have a Jackson JS30KV and Dean ML DBD Tribute guitar which I could easily just switch to when playing metal, but my thought process is that if I'm going to be spending way more on a guitar than I previously have, and will for a considerable amount of time (about £800 max really) I would ideally like to play all styles of music that I can on the little beaut.

So, essentially, would an SG in this price range be able to cope with metal if I paired it up with my amp (Line 6 spider 4) and/or the correct pedals, or is playing this kind of music realistically not going to work.

I haven't played on an SG yet, as I'm just in the research phase of getting a new guitar, so any other suggestions would be wonderful. I kind of chucked out the idea of a telecaster for the same concern as above.

What I'm after is a guitar to play bluesy/rock/metal kind of music on - although as I said I'd be looking ideally for something that's a decent all rounder as I'm having some lessons and i'm interested in broadening my horizons and not being confined to Metal. Haven't really got a limit (within reason) but would have to be besotted with a guitar to spend more than £800 on it.

Would the SG in my price range cut it? or a tele? I've also been looking at PRS, if not any other suggestions/general input is more than welcome.
#2
I really hate to be that guy...
But what you really need is a new amp.

EDIT:
I feel like a douche for such a short message.
I have a gibson sg special, which although is supposedly a budget gibson, I feel that it's capable of any kind of genre I put it to, even if it doesn't quite master certain genres (obviously can't get single coil twang) and it can more than handle metallica with some amp tweaking. So an SG would certainly fit the bill for you but perhaps consider the possibility of a new amp
Last edited by slashfan226 at Aug 28, 2011,
#3
I have to agree with the above guy, the guitars you have are really good for metal, but the amp you have sucks. I'd look at something like a Marshall Full Stack which you can pickup for around 800-900 (dollars here, but the conversion will probably put it in the same area for you). It's better to have a cheaper guitar (I call 'em Mod Platforms cause they usually are perfect to change pickups or any wiring pattern really) with a really good amp that will give you a pretty good sound, then to have a good guitar with a piece of shit amp that will make you sound like shit.

A couple pedals I recommend are the Black Label Chorus and the Fullbore Metal both from MXR. Those two paired with that awesome Marshall amp stack will be like ear porn... with Olivia Wilde and Cameron Diaz... covered in whip cream.
#4
The 60s tribute has a nice neck, not to fat, not too thin. The P90s are able to do a pretty heavy metal tone, but like everyone else said, you'd need a better amp. But keep in mind that while you can get a heavy tone on P90, a humbucker is the metal norm and the pickup Metallica uses, so if you want to sound like Metallica, it probably won't happen, regardless of the amp.

Also, I'd take a Les Paul over an SG any day for the carved top and neck balance. I really don't see any advantage an SG has over a Les Paul.
#5
Quote by Kamikaze1014
Upper fret access is miles better IMO. I'm buying an SG soon aswell TS.

Well, that is true. The strap button kind of interferes though.
#6
I agree with getting a better amp. A spider 4 is pretty crap for what you want to do. The guitars you have now will pull off blues and rock as well as metal quite nicely.

A friend of mine had a Dean Dime-O-Flag and I was able to pull some nice blues tones out of it.

Or sell your spider and use the cash from that to help offset the cost of a new amp.
Quote by FatalGear41
In the end, the only question is: what bass would Jesus play?

I think he's a Fender Jazz guy.
#7
Quote by tonello
.... Those two paired with that awesome Marshall amp stack will be like ear porn... with Olivia Wilde and Cameron Diaz... covered in whip cream....


UG NEEDS a like button lol.
#8
Well, that's a bit lame. Thanks nonetheless.

I'm not sure I really did myself justice in my original post, what I meant was that I'm buying a new guitar, which I want to use for more general, widened genres of playing - but figured it would be nice, if I'm spending a decent amount on a guitar, if it didn't sound rubbish if I fall back into the comfort of playing a few Metallica covers.

I realize that the amp isn't the greatest thing in the world for much besides metal (It seems like you all feel otherwise, but I have no problems with it whatsoever for the heavier stuff)

clearer? ...no, thought not.
change much? ...no thought not

cheers guys.
#9
Quote by tonello
I have to agree with the above guy, the guitars you have are really good for metal, but the amp you have sucks. I'd look at something like a Marshall Full Stack which you can pickup for around 800-900 (dollars here, but the conversion will probably put it in the same area for you). It's better to have a cheaper guitar (I call 'em Mod Platforms cause they usually are perfect to change pickups or any wiring pattern really) with a really good amp that will give you a pretty good sound, then to have a good guitar with a piece of shit amp that will make you sound like shit.

A couple pedals I recommend are the Black Label Chorus and the Fullbore Metal both from MXR. Those two paired with that awesome Marshall amp stack will be like ear porn... with Olivia Wilde and Cameron Diaz... covered in whip cream.


I agree, new amp. A Marshall JCM 800/900/2000 paired with an overdrive seems good for him, but a full stack is unnecessary, a 2x12 combo, or a half stack. You only need a full stack if you are playing stadiums. Or a clean amp with a good pedal, like an EHx Metal Muff, i prefer it over the Fullbore, but to each his own. if you are on a budget a good modulation pedal is the EHx Worm, it has flange, chorus, and phaser. bu if you can afford it or only need one MXR makes good phasers and flanger, EHx makes a good chorus.
#10
im sorry to say you need a new amp too, you can pick up a decent marshall combo for a good price if you look around, i have a jcm 900. and it dies everything i want, it cost me £400.

The line 6 spider Iv is a beginners amp, even in stack form,
with higher end guitars, you DESERVE for them to be played through something other than that solid state Modelling Trash.
sorry.

Lpj.
#11
no appolgies required, LPJ. The Spider IV is only the second ever amp I've ever had so it being labelled a beginner's amp/not being suitable for a high end guitar is no insult, and a fairly logical conclusion. As I said in the op I'm a bit of a gear noob, so any insight is generally accepted. It's going to be the first thing replaced after I get another guitar anyway

Cheers for info guys!
#12
Don't be surprised if your new SG doesn't really shine on that amp.

If you've never played a Gibson SG I suggest you do. Gibson necks are a bit different then most other necks, not bad just different.
Quote by FatalGear41
In the end, the only question is: what bass would Jesus play?

I think he's a Fender Jazz guy.