#1
So I'm finally able to upgrade my rig. My current rig consists of a Peavey Valveking head and matching 4x12 cab, a BOSS GE-7 eq in the loop, and BOSS sd-1 OD infront, and a BOSS ns-2 for noise. Now, i got this to sound decent for my style (Post-hardcore/metal) but obviously, this is not the greatest setup. I have a $1000 budget. My question is, since the the valveking cab sucks, would it be better to upgrade cab or head first? I have a short tour coming up in the end of september across the east coast, so I'm looking to get a better tone by then. My budget will be expanded if I sell my cab and head, which would put my budget around 1600. Im open to ANY suggestions, but please dont reccomend the 5150/6505. I used this amp for close to a year, and simply did not like the harshness that I heard. Thanks in advance!
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#2
Head is more important than your cab, but don't underestimate the cab.

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#3
I would honestly get rid of the cab before the head. The head is capable of metulz if you do it right.

Also, you only need a 2x12, TS, not a 4x12. That will save you some cash
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#4
I used the head in a metal band, it went fine. I'd say go for a better cab first and if that doesn't work save for a new head after. Worst comes to worst, you get a good cab before you get a good head.
#5
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I would honestly get rid of the cab before the head. The head is capable of metulz if you do it right.

Also, you only need a 2x12, TS, not a 4x12. That will save you some cash

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I used the head in a metal band, it went fine. I'd say go for a better cab first and if that doesn't work save for a new head after. Worst comes to worst, you get a good cab before you get a good head.


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#7
Well, first of all, impedance hasn't been brought up at all. From my experience, all Peavey cabs, and most heads are 16 ohm. So if you're going to buy one or the other of another brand, you're going to have to take the into consideration or else you're gunna be having a bunch of mismatched gear.

But! Seriously. You have a Peavey tube head and a 4X12 and the EQ and everything else, and you can't get good tone? You're either doing something very wrong, something is broke, or, what you need in an attenuator!
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#8
Quote by HavokStrife
Well, first of all, impedance hasn't been brought up at all. From my experience, all Peavey cabs, and most heads are 16 ohm. So if you're going to buy one or the other of another brand, you're going to have to take the into consideration or else you're gunna be having a bunch of mismatched gear.

But! Seriously. You have a Peavey tube head and a 4X12 and the EQ and everything else, and you can't get good tone? You're either doing something very wrong, something is broke, or, what you need in an attenuator!


uh.

I'm pretty sure that amp has an impedance switch.

If not, you can still get 16 ohm cab no problem. Avatar, etc. Will hook you up.

And the Valveking 4x12, like most stock peavey cabs, don't sound great.
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#9
Go for an Avatar cab with some V30s or G12K100s, and I'd say get a hold of a tubescreamer pedal. Granted, it's just a suggestion, but they're ridiculously good ODs and tend to do a ton of good for metal.
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Quote by Guitarbaddie
uh.

I'm pretty sure that amp has an impedance switch.


uh.

Sorry I don't look on the back of every piece of shit amp in the world.

But okay. He gets a 16 ohm cab. Even a 2x12 like you said so he can sit indian style in front of the damn thing every time he wants to hear himself.

Then he wants a head. And 90% of heads in the world are 8 ohms, or 4 ohms stereo. He now has a 2x12 paperweight. Good advice.

Just get an attenuator and figure it out later when you're good enough that you don't have to go to this ridiculous forum all the time for advice..
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#11
Quote by HavokStrife
uh.

Sorry I don't look on the back of every piece of shit amp in the world.

But okay. He gets a 16 ohm cab. Even a 2x12 like you said so he can sit indian style in front of the damn thing every time he wants to hear himself.

Then he wants a head. And 90% of heads in the world are 8 ohms, or 4 ohms stereo. He now has a 2x12 paperweight. Good advice.

Just get an attenuator and figure it out later when you're good enough that you don't have to go to this ridiculous forum all the time for advice..

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#12
if somebody gave me a choice of a marshall 4x12 made in 2011 or a 1x12 thiele cab with EVM12L's, i'd take the thiele lol. that's one heavy paperweight.

and i've seen too many amps with 4, 8, and 16 ohm outputs on the back. especially 8 and 16 are really common.
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Quote by HavokStrife
uh.

Sorry I don't look on the back of every piece of shit amp in the world.

But okay. He gets a 16 ohm cab. Even a 2x12 like you said so he can sit indian style in front of the damn thing every time he wants to hear himself.

Then he wants a head. And 90% of heads in the world are 8 ohms, or 4 ohms stereo. He now has a 2x12 paperweight. Good advice.

Just get an attenuator and figure it out later when you're good enough that you don't have to go to this ridiculous forum all the time for advice..

.. You surely can't be serious.
#14
The Valvekings can sound pretty decent through a good cab, but with 1600 bucks, you could afford a new head as well (or just buy a nice combo amp if that's something you'd also consider).

Question is, what tones do you like? "High gain" can mean a lot of different things. The more precisely you can describe it, the better.


Quote by HavokStrife
uh.

Sorry I don't look on the back of every piece of shit amp in the world.

But okay. He gets a 16 ohm cab. Even a 2x12 like you said so he can sit indian style in front of the damn thing every time he wants to hear himself.

Then he wants a head. And 90% of heads in the world are 8 ohms, or 4 ohms stereo. He now has a 2x12 paperweight. Good advice.

Just get an attenuator and figure it out later when you're good enough that you don't have to go to this ridiculous forum all the time for advice..

What the hell crawled up your ass and died? Not only is your attitude uncalled for, most things you have said are nonsense.
#15
Quote by TheQuailman
The Valvekings can sound pretty decent through a good cab, but with 1600 bucks, you could afford a new head as well (or just buy a nice combo amp if that's something you'd also consider).

Question is, what tones do you like? "High gain" can mean a lot of different things. The more precisely you can describe it, the better.


What the hell crawled up your ass and died? Not only is your attitude uncalled for, most things you have said are nonsense.

I swear, he has to be trollin'. Or he's actually very ignorant.
#16
Also, you're right. This is a terrible place for advise because of douche bag trolls such as yourself. As for the rest of you guys, thanks for the advice. I'm going to most likely get an Avatar with V30's, and possibly switch my OD for a Maxon 808 or possibly a TS9
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#17
^Good idea. A lot of VK users tend to replace the stock speaker in the combo with a V30 and seem very pleased with the results. There is a Valveking thread, maybe take a look for more detailed info:
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=969296

EDIT: I think the SD1 is a pretty decent OD.


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I swear, he has to be trollin'. Or he's actually very ignorant.

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#18
Quote by Hail
Go for an Avatar cab with some V30s or G12K100s, and I'd say get a hold of a tubescreamer pedal. Granted, it's just a suggestion, but they're ridiculously good ODs and tend to do a ton of good for metal.

+1

Avatar makes great cabs for the money and that is an excellent speaker choice. X pattern FTW

TS - I think you'll be much happier with the VK in the long run (or the short run) with a different cab. I've owned a VK and Avatar cabs.
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Quote by HavokStrife
uh.

Sorry I don't look on the back of every piece of shit amp in the world.

But okay. He gets a 16 ohm cab. Even a 2x12 like you said so he can sit indian style in front of the damn thing every time he wants to hear himself.

Then he wants a head. And 90% of heads in the world are 8 ohms, or 4 ohms stereo. He now has a 2x12 paperweight. Good advice.

Just get an attenuator and figure it out later when you're good enough that you don't have to go to this ridiculous forum all the time for advice..

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#20
Most Peavey heads I've had (JSX, Classic 50, 6505) have all had 4, 8, and 16ohm outputs via a switch...and none of those amps have been shitty.
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#21
i highly recommend a V30 K100 in an X pattern. i use two cabs for my splawns usually (way overkill, i am just having fun during the day, so no flaming ) and they balance out with eachother perfectly, the K100's get a little bit more lows while not being too boomy, and have a smoother mid spike that tames the V30's a bit. IMO they are a match made in heaven.
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#22
Absolutely get rid of the cab, not even people who like Valvekings like the Valveking cab unless it's got different speakers.

Get a Mesa, Avatar, Orange, White Box, Emperor, Splawn or even a Marshall (1960) 412 or a 212 if you prefer.
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#24
Id go for a used Mesa Boogie or Rivera Cab With celestion T75's.
( 500-600$)
and you could use a Line 6 POd Hd 500 ( 500$) or Pod x3 ( 300-400$) to make your amp sound a shit ton better.
Because both those products have great Amp Modeling, so you could make your shitty Amp head sound somewhat like a Engl:P
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#26
used 2 channel dual rec $1000

used Mesa 2x12 around $600

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