#1
Hi, My "fretless wonder" is no good for shredding, but I now have a Fender MIM Telecaster which has medium frets and is better for legato. I'd like to move into shredding. Can anyone shred on a Tele or should I keep an eye out for a "Wizard neck" Ibanez or similar?
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#2
If you can 'shred', you should be able to do it on any guitar.

I can understand why you may struggle on a fretless, but you should be able to do it on any fretted guitar. The only difference will be how it sounds - a standard telecaster will have single coil pickups, so will sound very different to shredding on a guitar with humbuckers.
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It depends on you really. I see people shred like crazy on Les Pauls and Teles on youtube, and I can shred decently on one as well, but I'm so much better on my Ibby with a wizard II neck, it's ridiculous. I have big hands and I learned on a guitar with a fatter neck. I've owned some very different guitars, all with very different necks, and my Ibanez RG beats them all for shredding. And I prefer 24 frets, not just for the higher notes, but it generally makes the 21-22 frets much more accessible.

So, anyone telling you that you can shred on a tele is right, but what's best for you depends solely on your own preferences.

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#7
John 5 and Andy Timmons both play Teles, and while I'm not too familiar with either(I listen to a bit of Rob Zombie here and there but there's not much lead work in Rob Zombie), I hear both can shred. My lead guitarist also used a Tele for about a year, and he found it better for shredding than his Washburn DD61, which is decidedly a more "metal" guitar.
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#8
It's all a matter of preference and getting used to it. I've been shredding only on Fenders for quite a few years, and a Tele is what I'm most comfortable with. In fact, I can't play comfortably at all on guitars with thin necks.
Give it a try, if you like the feel it's all that matters, you can change pickups if needed later.
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#10
if it's anyways similar to my strats neck (which is a standard C, not a thin/fast neck) then it's all fine. it really depends on what you want. i don't reallylike les pauls nor i like the fast necks out there. my strat is just my thing. may be you might want to change the pickups however
#11
It's about your muscle control in your hands. Playing fast isn't facilitated by a thin neck and jumbo frets. If you can play fast on a Wizard neck you should be able to play just as fast on a 50's Gibson style neck. I have a Washburn X-50 Pro which has a considerably thicker neck than my '87 RG560 has and I can play just as fast on either one. It's all about how much you actually practice. No neck is going to make you play faster. If the speed isn't already in your hands, a thinner piece of wood isn't going to add to your muscle in your hands.

If you're a good player, you can play just as fast on any guitar as another. But if you're going for that type of sound, most guys use humbuckers. You could put one in a Tele. You'd have to have it routed out for a neck humbucker too.
#12
richie kotzen. nuff said
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Pretty much what I was going to say. The man is a beast.
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+10 good sir

I was actually going to give that link before I saw that you did. Roy is a great example of speed (not necessarily shred) on a telecaster. For my part I love the kind of twang sound that teles have particularly for metal. It cuts through the mix.
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#16
Yeah John 5 can get pretty insane and all he uses are teles. Check out Black widow of La Porte
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#18
Thanks all. So the Tele should be OK. I know it just takes practise but I want to make sure I'm not making it harder than necessary for myself.

How about action? Is the lower the better for shredding? I know tone is sacrificed but it's about making it as easy as possible for the moment!
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If you can 'shred', you should be able to do it on any guitar.

I can understand why you may struggle on a fretless, but you should be able to do it on any fretted guitar. The only difference will be how it sounds - a standard telecaster will have single coil pickups, so will sound very different to shredding on a guitar with humbuckers.

Yup. I mean, you'll definitely need to adjust for string gauge, neck width and such, but buying a new guitar with a thin neck isn't going to make it easy to learn.
#20
Personally, a thin neck sucks for me when shredding on a '93 S470SOL. It's annoyingly thin... I like Fender necks a lot, Gibson necks, and Jackson necks. The most comfortable neck I've ever played is a Squier 50s Vibe Strat neck, and I shred better on it than all the others I have. It's just more comfortable for me.
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#21
I used to think my Gibson's thick neck ('59 style) was slowing me down and making it harder for me to play fast.

After getting it signed, I almost never even took it out of its case.

A long time passed, and I was a good bit better at playing (I'm still not great by any means). I took out the Les Paul just to play with it a bit and see what it sounded and felt like because it had been so long.

That's when I realized that, while some necks may be more comfortable than others to you, the only thing that will make your playing better is practice.
#22
I'd advise you to learn your chops on the tele. If you can do it on that, you can do it on anything.

Not necessarily because the neck would be harder to play on, but because the treble response on a tele means if you play it badly it will sound terrible. Learn how to play well on that and you will have a real good grounding technique-wise for whatever you buy next.
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#23
if your going to shred with high gain, you might want to change the pickups to hotrails or something similar. But that will also take away the teleness of the guitar. If your going low gain they sound really good. Check this guy out,shredding on low gain tele to megadeth and richie kotzen songs:

http://www.youtube.com/user/102totsu102
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#24
By shred I'm guesing you mean a fast playing neck. If your looking for a fast neck the best way to go would be ibanez. Jackson necks are pretty slim too. I would recommend going to guitar center and playing some ibanez esp/ltd or schecters and seeing which guitar plays the best to you.
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Hi, My "fretless wonder" is no good for shredding, but I now have a Fender MIM Telecaster which has medium frets and is better for legato. I'd like to move into shredding. Can anyone shred on a Tele or should I keep an eye out for a "Wizard neck" Ibanez or similar?
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