#1
This iron maiden solo has the notes of b minor but when i play the rhthym it sounds like it resolves on e. Btw my theory knowlege isnt very good. The solo sounds very dorian to me. Im also pretty sure the final run is an ascending dorian scale as well.

Maybe the chords at the end of the solo give something away.

This is the tab and the link for the song,solo starts at 4.15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBxFj8ZRLm4


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e|---------------------------------------------------|
B|---------------------------------------------------|
G|---------------------------------------------------|
D|-----------------4----------------7p4--------------|
A|--------5h7--------5--------5h7-------5------------|
E|--0-5h7------0-0------0-5h7-----0------------------|



Adrian Smith (Solo)
e|--------------7------------------------------------|
B|-----10-10-10---10---8-8p7-------------------------|
G|---7-----------------------9p7---7-9/11-9-9h11-----|
D|-9-----------------------------9-------------------|
A|---------------------------------------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------------|

e|---------------------------------------------------|
B|---------------------------------------------------|
G|--7\6---6------------------------------------------|
D|------9----7\5---5\4-------------------------------|
A|---------------7-----7p5---5-7/9-7-7h9-------------|
E|-------------------------7-------------------------|

e|---------------------------------------------------|
B|---------------------------------------------------|
G|---------------------------------------------------|
D|-------4b---4b----4-5-7/9-7-5-7-5------------------|
A|---5h7----------4-----------------7-5-7------------|
E|-7--------7----------------------------------------|

e|---------------------------------------------------|
B|---------------------------8-----------------------|
G|------------7h9/11-9---7h9---9---------------------|
D|------5h7/9----------------------------------------|
A|--5h7----------------------------------------------|
E|---------------------------------0-----------------|

e|---------------------------------------------------|
B|------T------T-------------T--------T--------------|
G|-7h9-12--7h9-12--9b----7h9-12--7h9--12---9b--------|
D|---------------------------------------------------|
A|---------------------------------------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------------|

e|---------------------------------------------------|
B|------T---------------------------------------T----|
G|--7h9-12------T-----------------------T---7h9-12-9-|
D|----------7h9-12-------T-------T--7h9-12-----------|
A|------------------7h9-12---7h9-12------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------------|

e|---------------------------------------------------|
B|---------------------------------------------------|
G|---7h9/11-9h11-9h11/12-11h12/14-12\11--------------|
D|---------------------------------------------------|
A|---------------------------------------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------------|

e|---------------------------------------------------|
B|---------------------------------------------------|
G|-9-9h11p9----9-11-12-14-12-11----------------------|
D|----------12------------------14-------------------|
A|---------------------------------------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------------|

e|---------------------------------------------------|
B|--12-10--12p10----10-------------------------------|
G|---------------12----12-11-9-11-12-11--------------|
D|---------------------------------------------------|
A|---------------------------------------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------------|

e|---------------------------------------------------|
B|---------------------------------------------------|
G|--9-9p7\6------6-----------------------------------|
D|-----------9-9---9-7-5-----------------------------|
A|---------------------------------------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------------|

e|-----------------------------------------------------|
B|-----------------------------------------------------|
G|---------------4-6-7/9-7h9/11-9h11-12--9-11-12-14-12-|
D|--4h5p4---4------------------------------------------|
A|--------7---5----------------------------------------|
E|-----------------------------------------------------|

e|-17-17-17-14-14-14---------------------------------|
B|-------------------15----17-15---------------------|
G|----------------------14---------------------------|
D|---------------------------------------------------|
A|---------------------------------------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------------|

e|---------------------14----12----------------------|
B|---------------------15----12----------------------|
G|--12--11--14---------14----12----------------------|
D|--12--12--12---x2----------14---x1-----------------|
A|---------------------------------------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------------|

Break
e|---------------------------------------------------|
B|---------------------------------------------------|
G|----------------4------------------4-6-------------|
D|----4-5---4-5-7--------4-5-7-4-5-7-----------------|
A|--7-----7------------------------------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------------|

#3
Quote by griffRG7321
It's in E minor.


why does it have the c# insteaad of the c then ?
#4
Quote by mrbabo91
why does it have the c# insteaad of the c then ?


I've not listened to the song in a while but it might lead to a modulation. If not, it's an accidental in E minor.

Just because notes outside of a major/minor scale are used doesn't mean it's modal. You can use all 12 notes and still be in one key.
#5
Quote by griffRG7321
I've not listened to the song in a while but it might lead to a modulation. If not, it's an accidental in E minor.

Just because notes outside of a major/minor scale are used doesn't mean it's modal. You can use all 12 notes and still be in one key.


to me it sounds like dorian.

surely if the piece resolves on e and the notes are

E, F#, G, A, B, C#, D

then that would indicate dorian. The c# note used alot as well. Im aware that i suck at theory but there must be something im not understanding.
#6


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#7
The chords will probably indicate whether it's dorian or minor scale. If it's doing something like eminor-f#minor or eminor-a7 then it's dorian. A vamp with those progressions gives that feel.
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#8
The tonality of a song is not determined by the jangly stuff you put on the top of it. So ignore the exact notes he plays and look at where the song resolves to.

Interestingly enough, underneath the solo you effectively have an Em vamp with the following riff (pulled from UG tabs):

e|---------------------------------------------------|
B|---------------------------------------------------|
G|---------------------------------------------------|
D|-----------------4----------------7p4--------------|
A|--------5h7--------5--------5h7-------5------------|
E|--0-5h7------0-0------0-5h7-----0------------------|


If it were an Em vamp, the tonality "could" be ambiguous if you're a person who ignores the tonal context of the rest of the song. I am not one of those people. For arguments sake I'll look at this vamp anyways.

As it is an Em vamp, the only thing we really have to go for are these notes repeated. All of them are in the Em scale, strongly enforcing the resolution to Em. I have no doubt that this section is also in Em. I'd be open to the suggestion that it was in dorian if there was a strong emphasis on the C# throughout this riff. It's not even present.

In keys you can play any note you wish. Out-of-key notes are called accidentals. An extremely common accidental is a sharpened 6th. This is what's happening here. The presence of this note has little bearing on the piece as a whole.

Thanks for asking. For further information learn more about keys, and less about modes
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#11
Yeah I'm sure it's [the solo] E minor and the C#s are accidentals.
Like Alan said, keys are determined by what's UNDER the "nice stuff". Take a look at the chords.

Anyway, Alan, what is the vamp stuff? Reminds me of Vamp from MGS2. :P
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#12
Quote by Woffelz

Anyway, Alan, what is the vamp stuff? Reminds me of Vamp from MGS2. :P


Not sure what you're asking unless the answer is "a riff using the notes of E minor"
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#13
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