#1
I know there are heaps of similar threads on this but I own two Epiphones (les paul nightfall and sg prophecy ex) both with emg's. Now I was wondering what would be a better guitar to aim for? Im pretty much choosing either the Gibson Les Paul Studio or a LTD EC-1000. If I got the les paul and the stock pickups were rubbish i would definately invest on some active emg's. My budget is probably $1700 australian.
#2
Sounds like this is a good time for the good old "try one before you buy one".
I've got a Gibson LP Gothic, which is essentially a Les Paul studio, and it kicks some serious ass for whatever you want to do really. Only downside is that it's kinda heavy. I don't know how the EC-1000 compares in weight though, since I haven't played one.

Anyway, what I really want to say is, I think both are probably about equal...just try both and see which one feels best to you.
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#3
Quote by Shor
Sounds like this is a good time for the good old "try one before you buy one".
I've got a Gibson LP Gothic, which is essentially a Les Paul studio, and it kicks some serious ass for whatever you want to do really. Only downside is that it's kinda heavy. I don't know how the EC-1000 compares in weight though, since I haven't played one.

Anyway, what I really want to say is, I think both are probably about equal...just try both and see which one feels best to you.

the ec-1000 is a bit lighter because its got a thinner more comfortable body, only problem is a tiny bit of loss of sustain

Get a Gibson and stick some BareKnuckle pickups in it, that way you have the versatility of passive pickups but all the "chug" and "djent" of actives
#4
For what you want the EC 1000 is better in my opinion... you woun't notice the tiny little bit of sustain loss, because of the amount of distortion and gain you will be using.
But try them out first.... ultimately your opinion must prevail over everybody's in this forum.
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#5
The best guitar for anything is the guitar you play best on/ is most comfortable to you.
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#7
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the ec-1000 is a bit lighter because its got a thinner more comfortable body, only problem is a tiny bit of loss of sustain

Get a Gibson and stick some BareKnuckle pickups in it, that way you have the versatility of passive pickups but all the "chug" and "djent" of actives

the djent sound is really mostly using passives.

Anyway, TS... I would see if I could find an ESP Eclipse II.
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#8
Indeed. Even semi-acoustics can djent lol.

@OP: Try whatever guitar you want, as long as it has a humbucker. You could take a Epiphone G400 or a Gibson Les Paul Studio, it doesn't matter.

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#9
Go for the EC-1000. It'll have a better sound for what you want. Also, I think the necks play much better than an LP.
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#10
Why would you want emgs in your new guitar if you already have two guitars with emgs?
#11
Quote by fuzzpedal
Why would you want emgs in your new guitar if you already have two guitars with emgs?


Idk, maybe because EMG's give him the tone he wants?
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#12
I understand that but it just doesn't make much sense to me to have more than one or two guitars for the same tone, each time I buy a new guitar I like to pick one that will give me a tone that I couldn't get with the guitars I have otherwise I feel like I'm just wasting money on something that I really don't need.
#13
Telling you right now that a Michael Kelly is the best money you could ever spend on a guitar for the quality. Try to find a Michael Kelly Hex Deluxe on eBay and switch out the pickups to your liking and you can't get much better.

Edit: I believe the guy on eBay selling them ships to Australia too. I just ordered my Hex Deluxe. I have a Patriot Vintage that is freaking amazing for only ~$400.

If you're dead set on getting a Les Paul body type, Michael Kelly has plenty available. I know I sound like I'm advertising, but they're just that damn good for the money. Here's the Patriot Vintage in one of my videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv6yCsECFw0

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#14
Quote by fuzzpedal
I understand that but it just doesn't make much sense to me to have more than one or two guitars for the same tone, each time I buy a new guitar I like to pick one that will give me a tone that I couldn't get with the guitars I have otherwise I feel like I'm just wasting money on something that I really don't need.


I understand that. Neither way is right or wrong though. Personally, I like all of my guitars to be as identical as possible, because I like all of my tone shaping to go on in my amp/effects. The purpose of having multiple guitars for me is for backups/different tunings. I love EMG's because they give me a flat EQ to work with, something passives are horrible at doing. That allows me to shape my tone much more easily with my amp/effects.
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#15
i am going to have to say Gibby LP Studio over EC1000, now if it were Gibson LP Studio v. ESP horizon II, it would be a close call, i own six gibsons. and have owned 3 LTD's and all the LTD's are long gone. i use an SG for my heaviest tone, its got two 81's and just a switch to turn the switch to on/off and one that flips and kills the volume.
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#16
If you got a budget of $1700 aus i would get the ltd from ebay because they're going for less than $1000 aus atm
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#17
I think you might be interested in the EC-1000T or the EC-1000T/CTM. Both are full thickness as apposed to the thinner body of the EC-1000. I have both and the thicker bodies are a little sweeter sounding. The thicker bodies also only come with the 22 fret neck. Incredible guitar for the money. I bought mine for $650 US. If you need help I can buy it and ship it to you. I won't charge you anything.
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#18
I think the LTD is a really nice guitar to play, and absolutely worth the money
#19
Just got the Michael Kelly Hex Deluxe. It's a high quality guitar. If you don't mind shorter frets, which I'm going to replace later on, it's the perfect guitar. Luckily it came set up perfectly, so it's not a big problem.
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#20
If i had to choose I would go with the LTD. They have a more playable neck and have emgs already installed and are more metal sounding. But I already have a guitar with emgs so if I had the decision and the money I would get the LP studio to play classic rock on. But for you definitely the ltd for metal core
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