#1
Hi everybody,

LTD KH-602

ESP KH-2 NTB

Same electronics, same hardware (except tuners). What is the big difference? Yes, ESP is handmade and LTD is factory built. However, price difference is around $2000!!! Why?
#3
The big difference will be quality. The Floyd on either will work great, and the tuners on the ESP model are better.

You are also paying a crap load for Kirk Hammet's name.
#4
esp is japanese made, ltd is korean (?)

which is another difference.

the esp probably uses better wood, too.
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a lot of esp guitars have the same specs to ltd's, the main difference would be the timber quality and handbuilt.

honestly i can't see a justification for getting an esp when they're so much more expensive, an ltd will do you just as good.
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#6
What about sustain? Will it be better? For the timber, the specs are the same: Alder body, Maple Neck, Rosewood Fingerboard. Everybody says that the quality is better for ESP. Will it make a significant difference in sound?
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What about sustain? Will it be better? For the timber, the specs are the same: Alder body, Maple Neck, Rosewood Fingerboard. Everybody says that the quality is better for ESP. Will it make a significant difference in sound?

Possibly. Assuming ESP hand picks their cuts of wood, it should resonate better. The quality should be better overall.

Personally, I would get either a cheaper ESP or an Ibanez Prestige to save money and not pay for the endorsement.
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Possibly. Assuming ESP hand picks their cuts of wood, it should resonate better. The quality should be better overall.

Personally, I would get either a cheaper ESP or an Ibanez Prestige to save money and not pay for the endorsement.

Ok I am not getting that ESP for sure It is sooo expensive! Will look for something else. I really like the reverse head in this guitar. Is there any other guitar with same shape and good quality?
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Niether ESP or LTD is any more handbuilt that the other. ESP is built in Japan which much better materials and workmanship. LTD is built in Korea with cheaper woods, hardware and cheaper labor. Specwise they look close, but play them side to side and they will feel and sound like completely different guitars. ESP's are stellar. LTD's can be great, but you can also get a lemon here and there.
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Possibly. Assuming ESP hand picks their cuts of wood, it should resonate better. The quality should be better overall.

Personally, I would get either a cheaper ESP or an Ibanez Prestige to save money and not pay for the endorsement.


+1

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+1

just to point out, that's the bolt-on version. there's a neck-thru version too that's a little dearer (but which should still be under budget, at least if the european prices are anything to go by).

EDIT: ah ok you pointed that out already

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Niether ESP or LTD is any more handbuilt that the other. ESP is built in Japan which much better materials and workmanship. LTD is built in Korea with cheaper woods, hardware and cheaper labor. Specwise they look close, but play them side to side and they will feel and sound like completely different guitars. ESP's are stellar. LTD's can be great, but you can also get a lemon here and there.


yeah i'm not sure how handbuilt esps are. they could be factory-made for all i know.
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Assume all guitars are made on a production line unless it says Custom Shop. Even then I think most companies custom shops use CNC machines to do the basic body and neck shaping and PLEK systems for the frets. You don't get truly hand made guitars any more, there's just no point. Machines can cut everything far more accurately and securely than a person can and they do it quicker. So long as the wood is hand-selected and the set up is done by a proper tech, that's all that really matters.
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ESP's are CNC'd, but everything else is done by hand, AFAIK. Only ESP Custom Shop guitars are handmade. I'm not sure about the ESP Custom guitars.

^ Agreed. CNC is a wonderful invention. What really matters is what is put into it, not whether or not it is done by hand (although I assume it must feel awesome to play a guitar you know was painstakingly made by hand)

And on that note, yes ESP guitars use much higher quality wood than LTD guitars. Also misc. stuff like higher quality finishes, and just general attention to finish/detail.
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Assume all guitars are made on a production line unless it says Custom Shop. Even then I think most companies custom shops use CNC machines to do the basic body and neck shaping and PLEK systems for the frets. You don't get truly hand made guitars any more, there's just no point. Machines can cut everything far more accurately and securely than a person can and they do it quicker. So long as the wood is hand-selected and the set up is done by a proper tech, that's all that really matters.

This.
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yeah pretty much. certainly with the bigger brands, anyway.
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