#1
Alright well I got an email from a guy who had a single pickup on a telecaster, which had a useless 3 way switch on it. He wanted a kill switch in place of the switch, but he wanted it momentary, not detent.

So i took a 5way switch i had laying around apart to see what i could do. Theres no way to spring load it using a spring, however they are already spring loaded by use of a bearing and leaf type spring.

To get the board off (this all may vary from one switch to another), first we twist the 4 sets of holders so they are straight, and not holding the board on:


Heres the board off, should look like this:


Now, the switch should slide out, but be careful of the little ball bearing! its loose, so it will fall out and you DONT want to lose it! you can see it sitting in the metal part.


now, here is where the bearing goes, youll see the spot on the side. this is the side where the "gear" part of the switch sits. you can see i used pieces of binding to build up a slight stairset. you will have to fine tune this yourself. the goal is for the metal handle of the switch to stop right after position #2, so you cant get into position #1. its not pretty, but a little super glue will do the trick!



now, your switch still has positions 5, 4, 3, and 2. and they still detent, but the ultimate goal is to have the switch stay in position 3, and kill then return when pushed to position 2. so we have to add a block in the "gear", then modify the shape some so its just one big ramp. the bearing will roll up it, then pop back into the middle position.



okay, now test it out, and see if you need to lower the ramp a little bit so it will move further. to do this, place the board on and peak in to see if the pins will touch the correct part of the board. its hard to see in the picture, but when you have it in your hand it will be easy to tell:


heres what it looks like without the board in place. in my case, the part on the gear actuall holds it back from switching the other direction into 4 and 5, but you may have to add a larger stairset like you did in the beginning in the actual housing on the opposite side.


go to the next post to see a video of it in action (bench test)
#3
Now, to wire this to a single pickup as a kill switch is very simple.

This is an import switch, so the middle 2 lugs are common. one of the pins is typically for the middle pickup, and one pin is for the neck (or whatever your position 1 is)
position 2 connects common (output), position 3 (middle), and lug #1 (for position 1)

lug 1 is only connected in positions 1 and 2, but we dont have position 1. just 2 (which is the momentary position). so this lug goes to ground.
the middle lug comes from the pickup, and the common goes to the volume or output.



simple as that!
Last edited by xadioriderx at Sep 10, 2011,
#4
If I needed to do this, this would be an awesome thread.

However, I do not need to do this, so its still an awesome thread.
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#5
Awesome, it's always good to have options like this. Do you know of any sliders that would fit in a switch slot, like if I wanted to use a slider for the volume control instead of a pot?
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Awesome, it's always good to have options like this. Do you know of any sliders that would fit in a switch slot, like if I wanted to use a slider for the volume control instead of a pot?


actually i looked into that today. theyre called slider pots. ive never seen one in person, but theyre fairly abundant online, they look like they wire the same as a volume pot does

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actually i looked into that today. theyre called slider pots. ive never seen one in person, but theyre fairly abundant online, they look like they wire the same as a volume pot does



I really want to make a guitar with all the pots sliding like this...
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Not sexy enough

Needs to be PRS status.


On second thought, that would just look kind of weird...
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actually i looked into that today. theyre called slider pots. ive never seen one in person, but theyre fairly abundant online, they look like they wire the same as a volume pot does


you've never seen one in real life? you've never seen a mixer? graphic equalizer?
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#13
re: slider pots, strat/tele level slot is 27mm long I think, smallest slider pot I found was 45mm long, there must be smaller ones though
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standard meaning fender style?


Yes; Strat, Ibanez, ESP, or anything that is a blade rather than a toggle.

Basically a 5 way switch will almost always be a "standard" blade switch.
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#20
alright!
so the guy emailed back the other day, and wanted to know if the switch could be in the rearward most position instead of straight up and down. makes sense.
so i pulled it apart and modded it the same way but back in that new position. so position 5 is the normal position, and move it towards position 4 and it shunts the lead to ground. you only move it about a centimeter and it kills.
youd have to really push on it to break it too, so thats not a worry at all.
on the tele plate unfortunately, this puts it right next to the volume, which is obnoxious. he doesnt have the volume or tone connected anyways, so it doesnt really matter, he wont accidentally bump it.
anyways, he came by today, and i installed the switch in, and he gave a bit of a demo - sorry, i didnt record it =(
it worked great! the only slightly unfortunate thing is that by shunting to ground it REALLY kills sound. meaning that your typical single coil hum gets cut as well. so if its at a low volume it makes a little bit of a click.
if youre jamming out at normal volume though, you dont hear a thing, its a nice dadadadadada kill
yeah, like i said - dadadadadada thats what it sounds like
anyways, the fact that it takes very little movement, and it has to be pushed up against that barrier to kill sound means you can basically make a tapping motion with your finger very rapidly and get a great stutter effect! as fast as you can move your finger you can kill sound, and the best part? looks 100% factory!
i guarantee this way you can stutter much faster than with a momentary push pot.

just thought id share the outcome!