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#1
Just found out Jackson announced these new guitars:

http://www.jacksonguitars.com/en-IT/products/search.php?partno=2916312503 (500&euro
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/en-IT/products/search.php?partno=2916320503 (600&euro

I used to have a RR3 (700&euro and it was a great guitar, but I didn't like the Floyd Rose (I'm a rhythm player) and the bolt-on neck. Now for 200€ less I can get the same guitar but with a fixed bridge and neck through construction... awesome! The pickups are Duncan designed instead of original Seymour Duncan, but they are still good and can be upgraded later. I think I'll order the RRXT from Thomann as soon as it will be available.

What do you think?
#3
Not a fan of Jackson either, but I know a few people who are, and they will be very happy that Jackson has more neck through/ fixed bridge guitars. That's the main thing that's been missing from their lineup.

EDIT: Just saw that RR with 24 frets and 2 pickups... those are going to sell like hotcakes. They've needed that addition to their lineup forever.
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#4
Im not a fan of dean/jackson/esp or anthing in the heay metal genre tbh because thats not the sort of thing i play but it seems like a great deal and if you need it and you can afford it and of course if you like it then get it.
#5
The RRXT seems like a better guitar than the other for a better price tbh, i think that on the other one the floyd rose and the EMGs raise the price quite a lot.
#6
BUY BUY BUYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jacksons are the best guitars I've ever played by far.
My DKMGT is wonderful, the only downside is the bolt on neck.... the new X series fixed that
#7
i dunno if those new ones are mij...
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#8
i'd go with the one with the floyd personally due to the emgs and better tuning stability cuz god knows i hate tuning every 5 minutes during a show.
also i plan on getting the new warrior they just release, yay for new jacksons!
also again, who cares what country its made in as long as the build quality is good?
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#9
yeah but mij normally equates to good build quality
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#12
yeah. good quality, reasonable prices (though the prices have been going up with the very strong yen )

win-win in my book
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#14
In the US, the RRXT is $500 and the the RRXMG is $650 (according to Musician's friend)

I am definitely gonna buy the RRXT in Trans Black. I had been wanting a neck through for years but they've always been so expensive

On little caveat with the RRXT, it only has 22 frets and that's what I hate most about my RR3

Edit: they have the RR24XT also, which is the exact same price as the RRXT and has identical specs, except for 2 extra frets.
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#15
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I actually have one as my main guitar. Its great.


yeah i have a dkmgt.
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#16
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yeah i have a dkmgt.


Wait.... you're telling me... my guitar is MIJ? Woah surprise surprise haha
#17
i think so. assuming it's one of the older ones. Even the x-series used to be mij, as far as i'm aware.
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#18
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i think so. assuming it's one of the older ones. Even the x-series used to be mij, as far as i'm aware.


I think they started out made in India, then they shifted production to Japan. That's where the current crop of X series guitars are made.

For the new ones, it's looking like it's back to India again.

Apparently, someone over at Jackson posted this on their new forum -

These guitars are not made in Japan, but are made at other factories in and around Asia and the Near-East, that have “mucho” experience in building Jackson models, and understand that these guitars need to have “mojo". ‘Nuff said here.


But I think the post was taken down again. It's bizarre that he didn't just come out and say it, because it seems obvious from that. Aside from Japan, the only place in Asia that has Jackson building experience is HMI in India.
#19
If they were MIJ I think that'd be a pretty big advertising point like it has been with previous models. I see nothing in their descriptions about where they're made so I'm assuming it's one of the others...

Not that big of a deal to me haha, I'll still probably get an SLX
#20
^^ thanks for the info

^ yeah probably
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#21
They should make them in China and sell them in starter packs to compete with Squier and Gio.


#22
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They should make them in China and sell them in starter packs to compete with Squier and Gio.




They've already got the JS series for that.

I'm not going to judge these just based on their country of origin. Heck we're not even totally sure of that yet, though India is looking pretty likely. I have a feeling these will play better than people will expect when they see the Made In India sticker.
#23
if only one was a 7 string...then maybe...

Oh well
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#26
How does the race of whoever make the guitars, in itself, affect how good the guitars are? It's things like quality control, attention to detail, and materials used that make a good guitar. True, in the past, foreign guitars were known to be of inferior quality, but in this day and age, many things have changed and it would be foolish to dismiss a good guitar based on the color of the guy who made it.
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#27
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How does the race of whoever make the guitars, in itself, affect how good the guitars are? It's things like quality control, attention to detail, and materials used that make a good guitar. True, in the past, foreign guitars were known to be of inferior quality, but in this day and age, many things have changed and it would be foolish to dismiss a good guitar based on the color of the guy who made it.

wtf are you talking about? Are the Chinese a different color than the Japanese? The Japanese Fujigen factory makes a far superior guitar to anything out of a Chinese factory. The same goes for Korean and Indonesian, they pale in comparison to Japan Sure, quality control matters too, but a better product will come from Japan, regardless of the Korean quality control.
#28
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wtf are you talking about? Are the Chinese a different color than the Japanese? The Japanese Fujigen factory makes a far superior guitar to anything out of a Chinese factory. The same goes for Korean and Indonesian, they pale in comparison to Japan Sure, quality control matters too, but a better product will come from Japan, regardless of the Korean quality control.


You, sir, are quite a backwards thinker.
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#29
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You, sir, are quite a backwards thinker.

Ok then.... enjoy your superior Korean guitars
#30
Finally a properly decked out RR. 24 frets, neck-through, two pickups, rear routed. Sorely needed. The best RR configuration of all time, and a killer base for mods.
#32
Quote by RR3tran
How does the race of whoever make the guitars, in itself, affect how good the guitars are? It's things like quality control, attention to detail, and materials used that make a good guitar. True, in the past, foreign guitars were known to be of inferior quality, but in this day and age, many things have changed and it would be foolish to dismiss a good guitar based on the color of the guy who made it.


it's nothing to do with race, it's to do with the tolerances in the factory, the skill of the workforce (nothing to do with race, to do with how well they're trained), and probably most importantly of all, the price point the guitars sell at. The japanese guitars generally sell at a higher price point, and have more money put into the materials, construction techniques, QC, etc.

if the koreans or chinese were told to put out as nice a guitar as the japanese ones, i'm sure they could do it. The difference is, in most cases (for the export guitars for the western market, anyway), that's not the case.

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You, sir, are quite a backwards thinker.


i notice your two guitars are japanese. maybe you should put your money where your mouth is before throwing the race card at everyone else.
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#33
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if the koreans or chinese were told to put out as nice a guitar as the japanese ones, i'm sure they could do it. The difference is, in most cases (for the export guitars for the western market, anyway), that's not the case.

I don't know, the Japanese really are some amazing craftsmen, and they have a great work ethic. The Koreans have really gotten better with their guitars, but I don't think they've caught up yet. I figured the Samick Greg Bennett line was their best attempt, and they are really just average.
#34
oh yeah sure, you're preaching to the choir regarding japanese guitars

I also heard somewhere that to work on guitars in japan (even on the production line) you have to have graduated luthier school. If so, that would explain a lot. I don't think that's the case even in western countries like the US which have a good reputation for guitar making.

my fret king is very nice, though, and it's (as far as i know, it doesn't say on it) Korean. But it's the exception, rather than the rule, out of the Korean-made guitars I've tried.
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#35
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I also heard somewhere that to work on guitars in japan (even on the production line) you have to have graduated luthier school.



That sure would explain a lot! Who knows how things are over there, they may have a luthier and a samurai sword building class at every school.

In the US, you probably need a certification to work at the custom shops, but every job I've ever had where I've built stuff was just OJT, so I'd imagine a guitar factory would be about the same thing, or some kind of apprenticeship. We have Lutherie schools all over the country though, I'm actually preparing to start at one next year. It's probably a bad idea though since there are so few guitar factories here, the economy sucks, and lutherie isn't in huge demand, but the course covers all kinds of forms of fine wood working, so I'll get plenty out of it.
#36
don't quote me on that, because it might not be true. But I've heard it several times now...

Good luck at lutherie school
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#37
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i dunno if those new ones are mij...

All hail the MIJ Jacksons!

But no, I believe that these ones are made in India.
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#39
If anything they're going to be worth the price just for the neck-thru construction. The hardware on them is going to be garbage that can just be upgraded. Wouldn't mind getting one of the Soloists and throwing an OFR on it, seeing as I love my JDR so much and want a neck-thru badly.
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All hail the MIJ Jacksons!

But no, I believe that these ones are made in India.


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