#1
I thought it was fret buzz forever. Until today. I decided to try, yet again, to track down why my upper strings sound so shitty, E & B especially.

I finally figured out that it was a piece on my bridge. A small metal wire-ish piece that goes across all the screws which you change for intonation. I realized that if i wedged a screwdriver between the wire and the bridge, the buzz would go away.

So, anyone dealt with this before? Can i remove the vibrating wire? or.. do i need a new bridge or something?

Working on pics atm, will hopefully edit soon.

Thanks!

edit: k so here it is
http://files.scottyshideout.com//files/1/0916111533.jpg

phone pic so it's blurry (sry), but you can barely make out the wireish thing going across all the screws.

Guitar is a Dean Dave Mustaine Signature V
Last edited by Chockomonkey at Sep 16, 2011,
#2
Pics would help.


What guitar is is?
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#3
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I thought it was fret buzz forever. Until today. I decided to try, yet again, to track down why my upper strings sound so shitty, E & B especially.

I finally figured out that it was a piece on my bridge. A small metal wire-ish piece that goes across all the screws which you change for intonation. I realized that if i wedged a screwdriver between the wire and the bridge, the buzz would go away.

So, anyone dealt with this before? Can i remove the vibrating wire? or.. do i need a new bridge or something?

Working on pics atm, will hopefully edit soon.

Thanks!

edit: k so here it is
http://files.scottyshideout.com//files/1/0916111533.jpg

phone pic so it's blurry (sry), but you can barely make out the wireish thing going across all the screws.

Guitar is a Dean Dave Mustaine Signature V

I honestly cant see it well but im sure there ia a reason for the wirebeing there. Try applying some chap stick maybe it just needs some lube. And dont worry chapstick wont damage ur guitar
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#5
The wire keeps the intonation screws from vibrating and moving, some bridges are alright without 'em while others need it. You could always shove a piece of paper in between the bridge and the wire? Or dab a bit of glue on it to stop it from making noise. Or just take it out and rebend it a little to where it fits a bit more snug. It's a ridiculously simple fix no matter how you go about it
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Last edited by Flux'D at Sep 16, 2011,
#6
Okay, so--I tried this chapstick trick with no success. Much more probing has finally led me to the part that is actually vibrating.

My bridge is very much like the below:
https://www.martinsixstringcustoms.com/store/images/uploads/SiklineToneProsABR1.jpg

The vibration is actually coming from each of the screws which adjusts the intonation. They are sitting in a U-shaped catch, metal-on-metal.

Anyone solved this problem?

I suppose i could get one of these: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/tonepros-t3bt-locking-fixed-bridge
Last edited by Chockomonkey at Sep 19, 2011,
#7
Set up your guitar, then use a dab of loctite on the inside thread, when it drys it should be ok.
Last edited by sstony at Sep 20, 2011,
#8
Clear nail varnish/loctite is pretty much the solution for all bridge buzzing issues. You'll have to reapply when you adjust the bridge though, but it should hold everything sturdy.
#9
Thanks for the replies. I'll try that today, but i want to make sure you understood me correctly. There aren't really threads, you see... the reason it vibrates is because it just lays in this metal U-shaped cradle. Would this nail varnish still be of use here?
#10
I always remove that wire. they're pretty useless unless you've got some bottom of the barrel chinese hardware

edit:

if it's those screws, I just dab some clear nail polish in them and go about my day
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#11
I removed any possible vibration at this area with a few wraps of teflon tape around each screw, but unfortunately to no avail.

What else do you guys do to determine the source of a vibration?

Did i mention that the vibration moved? It used to be on the highest 3 strings. I adjusted the truss rod and changed strings (same gauge, just new), and now playing the lower 3 strings seems to cause it.
#12
i remember reading someone using a stethoscope for this sorta thing. I think i'm going to buy one at walgreens today to hopefully put this thing to bed.
#13
it sounds like oscillation to me... did you change string gauges recently?
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#14
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it sounds like oscillation to me... did you change string gauges recently?


Well, this has been going on forever... but yes i changed string gauges when it first started happening, along with a lot of other tinkering--which is what made this problem such a headache to track down to begin with.

Could elaborate on what you think is going on?
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Well, this has been going on forever... but yes i changed string gauges when it first started happening, along with a lot of other tinkering--which is what made this problem such a headache to track down to begin with.

Could elaborate on what you think is going on?



do you hear like a harmonic when you pluck an open string. likle a halfassed pinch harmonic?
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#16
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do you hear like a harmonic when you pluck an open string. likle a halfassed pinch harmonic?


one might describe it that way. When i'm plugged in it muddy's up the bottom e and makes it sound as if it were a half-step off. (which may be this harmonic your talking about)
#17
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one might describe it that way. When i'm plugged in it muddy's up the bottom e and makes it sound as if it were a half-step off. (which may be this harmonic your talking about)

what else did you do besides change the string gauge?

if the strings are a bit thicker than what comes stock, the strings may not be sittin on the saddles and/or nut slots properly


also stretch the strings so that the windings tighten up a bit. i find that helped sometimes when i got the oscillation from my strings....
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#18
i believe at that point in time i changed strings, played with pickup height, and adjusted the action and intonation a little at the bridge.

However, i took all the strings off to change them--i hadn't heard that you should do it one at a time.

When i got it all put back together and adjusted, i suddenly had this weird vibration/buzzing happening, which muddys up the tone when played through an amp. You can hear a whirring sound when played un-ammped.

Also should probably mention that this noise can be heard no matter how strong or soft i pluck the string.