Page 1 of 2
#1
For those of you that don't know, I build classic old amps into "cookie tins". It's actually a whiskey tin but the generic term cookie tin seems to have stuck. This is another 18W Marshall in a Jack Daniels tin.
It is a faithful replica of the normal channel (ie. no tremelo) of a Marshall 1974X from the mid sixties. The only variation is an improved power supply filter. I think I've stumbled onto the sweet spot using 50uF/32uF/32uF rather than the way undersized original of 32uF/16uF/16uF. This thing is very quiet.
It is a JJ experience. The valves are all JJ - 2xEL84, 2xECC83S and an EZ81 rectifier. The filter caps are also JJ. I chose them because they were the only black ones I could find but they are a quality capacitor that should last many years. I actually used one side of the 50uF dual as the bypass cap on the power amp cathode cct.
The rest of the signal caps are all Sprague, Orange Drops with Atoms on the preamp cathodes.
Both transformers are ClassicTone made in Chicago.
CTS pots and gold plated ceramic tube sockets.

It sounds great. If you've heard an 18W Marshall then you know what it sounds like. Pulls a great Gary Moore tone with a tubescreamer in front of it. A mini Plexi basically.
The tone control is subtle but useable. I find backing it off a little makes it more Plexi-like, just like on the originals.

So pics:





And of course you will want to see the guts:



You'll notice I used two turret boards. That was so I could fit the valves in the centre of the box and there isn't a lot of room in there. It worked out quite well and allowed for better arrangement of the heater wiring. The wires that cross it are about an inch away. I think I'm on a winner with this design. The board on the left is the preamp and the board on the right is the power amp.

The lid, front and back are reinforced with 2mm aluminium and the sides with 3mm aluminium.

This one I will want cash for so please no offers of swaps for guitars this time. I have enough guitars, I need cash to finance the next one.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
Last edited by Cathbard at Sep 21, 2011,
#3
Oh, and the back:

Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#5
sexy. what are the unused taps on the PT? a 120v tap?
Call me "Shot".

ShotRod Guitar Works

Custom Hand-wired Amplifiers and Effect Pedals.

Est. 2007


Source to everything I say about Guitars, Pedals, and Amplifiers: I make them.


UG's Best DIY PedalBoard
#6
Quote by ECistheBest
sexy. what are the unused taps on the PT? a 120v tap?

Correct. I can wire it up for US voltage if I have to.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#7
Do you have any kind of price range you could PM me on something like this? Im from TN and I love my whiskey and I love me some 18w marshal so putting the two together like this is like a dream come true lol.
Ibanez SIR27
Pod HD500x

RIP:
Mesa Boogie Roadster 2x12 combo
Cmatmods analog chorus, phaser, tremoglo, signa drive, butah, and deeelay
walrus Audio Descent
#8
It's no secret, the same price as the last one that you can see on my site (link in sig). I'll probably stick an ad in the ad section of UG again too. I want Au$650. Postage on the last one to California was $150. That includes insurance. That's US$665 and US$153 atm.
I'll be selling it from my site but I wanted to give UG'ers first bite at the cherry.
It cost me over $400 in parts alone, quite a bit over really. I'm not trying to make a living out of them, just make enough to keep doing it. I'd like eventually to be a couple ahead of demand but that's my only ambition. This is art, not an amp business.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
Last edited by Cathbard at Sep 20, 2011,
#9
Well if I get around $850 or so saved up Ill hit you up cause Ive been looking at getting an 18w marshall for a long time and actually considered trying to build one from a kit but that looks sexy as hell. Shipping will probably be much worse out to TN though.
Ibanez SIR27
Pod HD500x

RIP:
Mesa Boogie Roadster 2x12 combo
Cmatmods analog chorus, phaser, tremoglo, signa drive, butah, and deeelay
walrus Audio Descent
#11
They have a postage calculator and it doesn't break down to anything further than the USA. No mention of which state so I'd say it wouldn't matter.
http://auspost.com.au/apps/international-parcel.html
It weighs just over 5kg. Surface mail is cheaper but takes about 3 months, I quoted air mail rates.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#13
Quote by Ippon
Very nice!

Have you considered clearcoating, to protect the graphics and keep it shiny?


Well, the tin is not a mint condition tin and I don't try to find mint condition tins. It is supposed to be povtech cyberpunk so a bit of wear is desirable, it adds to the aesthetic. Not bashed up but obviously recycled is the order of the day, artistically speaking.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#15
Well, I'm considering building a 5E3 Fender Deluxe but I'm not sure how well I can make it all fit because they have the larger octal sockets (for 6V6 valves). That's the beauty of the 1974X Marshall, nice little 9 pin sockets for skinny little EL84 tubes.

Still no recording gear sorry, but you all know what an 18W Marshall sounds like.

And thanks for all the compliments guys.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#16
if you build a fender, what would it be in? samuel adams?
Call me "Shot".

ShotRod Guitar Works

Custom Hand-wired Amplifiers and Effect Pedals.

Est. 2007


Source to everything I say about Guitars, Pedals, and Amplifiers: I make them.


UG's Best DIY PedalBoard
#17
Whatever tin I can find that I like. JD tins are easiest to come by and that would do fine but whatever I find that I think is appropriate and in the correct condition.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#18
Thats looks awesome!! Would definately buy that off you if I had any cash :p
Quote by Kensai
You'll find whisky very different, but try it and you'll grow into it, soon you and whisky are one, but still two, lovers dancing across a frozen lake under moonlight, wrapped in honey and warmth.


Sums up whisky perfectly
#19
As always, awesome work Cath.

1977 Burny FLG70
2004 EBMM JP6
2016 SE Holcolmb
#20
I will most definitely pick one of these up in the next 2 years, if you're still making them like this. You made me GAS for an 18w blues machine.
WTLTL 2011
#21
I've had a firm offer already on this one so it's effectively sold. If they continue to sell this quickly I won't stop making them any time soon. All I do with my time is build oddball things and a bit of artwork. I'm destined to be the eccentric old hermit that makes weird shit.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#22
Quote by Cathbard
I've had a firm offer already on this one so it's effectively sold. If they continue to sell this quickly I won't stop making them any time soon. All I do with my time is build oddball things and a bit of artwork. I'm destined to be the eccentric old hermit that makes weird shit.


Then you can use that money to get some recording gear right?
#23
I need to sort out Linux on the pc in the band room so I can record with that. It's mainly just a matter of sitting down and doing it really. Been too busy building amps and stuff. The bulk of the money I'll get from this will be used to fund the next one. There's not a lot of profit involved - I guess I could jack up the price.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#24
Cool
Quote by SimplyBen
That's the advantage of being such a distance from Yianni. I can continue to live my life without fear of stumbling upon his dark terror.


Quote by Toppscore
NakedInTheRain aka "Naked with shriveled pencil sized bacon In The Rain"
#25
Nice
Guitars: Fender FSR Standard Strat, Squire Affinity Strat, Epiphone Nighthawk
Amps: Vox AC15C1, Roland Cube 15x, Peavey KB-1
Pedals: Digitech RP355, HD500, Joyo AC-Tone, EHX Soul Food
#27
Quote by Cathbard
I need to sort out Linux on the pc in the band room so I can record with that. It's mainly just a matter of sitting down and doing it really. Been too busy building amps and stuff. The bulk of the money I'll get from this will be used to fund the next one. There's not a lot of profit involved - I guess I could jack up the price.


What recording software works with linux?

You may as well for $650 AUD. What is that like 46p? Its pretty cheap for a hand built amp.
#29
Quote by beckyjc
What recording software works with linux?

You may as well for $650 AUD. What is that like 46p? Its pretty cheap for a hand built amp.

There is a lot of Linux recording software. You don't try to use Windows stuff, there are good native Linux apps and they are all free.

You can't make jokes about the Aussie dollar any more. Those are for another time period. It's the USD and the GBP that are the laughing stocks now. The AUD is stronger than it has ever been. The GFC hardly touched us. The only thing that we saw of that was a $600 gift that everybody received from the government.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
Last edited by Cathbard at Sep 20, 2011,
#30
As always, And congrats on the quick sell!
Gibson Les Paul Studio
Highway One Telecaster
Dean Evo
Mesa F-50
Laney GH50L
Vox AC30 C2
Ampeg V2
pedals
#31
Quote by Mark G
I will most definitely pick one of these up in the next 2 years, if you're still making them like this.

+1

Quote by Cathbard
I guess I could jack up the price.

Nevermind.


Quote by Cathbard
Quote by Raijouta
Unless its electronic drums.

BURN THE WITCH!!!!!
Last edited by tubetime86 at Sep 20, 2011,
#32
Dude, awesome amp! Imagine busting that thing out at a gig... Nothing screams rock and roll more than playing through a jack daniels amp! If I had that much cash lying around right now I'd totally order one on the spot! Great job man.

I can't imagine it has a lot of weight to it, but is the tin sturdy enough with the aluminum plates alone? I tend to overdo things like that. If I had made it, you could probably drive a hummer over it without breaking the case, but it wouldn't work because I suck with electronics lol.


Quote by Cathbard
I guess I could jack up the price.


Ha! I see what you did there....
Quote by tubetime86
He's obviously pretty young, and I'd guess he's being raised by wolves, or at least humans with the intellectual capacity and compassion of wolves.


You finally made it home, draped in the flag that you fell for.
And so it goes
#33
sweet
I'm an idiot and I accidentally clicked the "Remove all subscriptions" button. If it seems like I'm ignoring you, I'm not, I'm just no longer subscribed to the thread. If you quote me or do the @user thing at me, hopefully it'll notify me through my notifications and I'll get back to you.
Quote by K33nbl4d3
I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

Quote by K33nbl4d3
Presumably because the CCF (Combined Corksniffing Forces) of MLP and Gibson forums would rise up against them, plunging the land into war.

Quote by T00DEEPBLUE
Et tu, br00tz?
#34
sex
but isnt the tin too weak?
Gear:
Peavey 6505 120W Head
Ibanez Rga32 (FOR SALE)
Laney Lv412a Cab(FOR SALE)
Soon To Get::
Boss DD20
Morley Bad Horsie II
#35
Quote by deepsal
sex
but isnt the tin too weak?

No, but your reading abilities are.
Quote by Cathbard
Quote by Raijouta
Unless its electronic drums.

BURN THE WITCH!!!!!
#36
Fender 5e3 in a Coke-a-Cola tin!!!!!


You know i'm right, the jack and marshall was my idea after all. Stick with the big, no check that,
H U G E markets of companies like Coke and Jack etc and an iconic circuit and you have a whole line of products that will get gobbled up by the sniffers of the cork. (i said cork there, not coke )

this looks ballin' cath, i love the Chicago built Classic Tone! i'm not at all surprised it sold so fast, not at all.

also, you are false marketing because the tin is stamped "made in usa".

j/k but consider Coke-a-Cola and a fender circuit, maybe the tweed champ like you have in the Tim Tams? that would be another good one but the 5e3 gets so much love as well, plus it's closer to drum volume friendly.

I wondered why the frisbee was getting bigger, then it hit me.
#37
It is quite sturdy. The reinforcement is there so you aren't tugging at the actual tin when replacing valves, plugging and unplugging cables and so forth. It's as solid as a rock though. I may not want to run over it in a car but it is ample for normal usage. There's a lot of aluminium in there.
It's actually meant to be something you'd have on display in your house and use as a practice amp. That is what the 18W'er was designed for in the first place. It's only in recent times that anybody has tried to gig with one. It is possible but I wouldn't do it without miking it up and neither do many other people. If one wanted to drag it along to a gig you'd want to make a road case for it just because the valves are exposed alone. You could do it but that's not what it is designed to do; it's a piece of artwork that you can also use.
It weighs just over 5kg (11 lb) btw.

Are there such things as Coke tins, greg? I like the idea, it would be a cogent statement about American consumerism. I've never seen one and you can hardly use a coke can. The problem with a 5E1 is the size of the octal sockets. I think I'd have to find a slightly bigger tin to accommodate them. I haven't ruled it out. I think I should specialise in 18W marshalls but the occasional Fender Deluxe would be nice to be able to offer. I intend to make another Champ at some time in the future as well. I use my Tim Tam Champ all the time.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
Last edited by Cathbard at Sep 21, 2011,
#38
Quote by Cathbard
I need to sort out Linux on the pc in the band room so I can record with that. It's mainly just a matter of sitting down and doing it really. Been too busy building amps and stuff. The bulk of the money I'll get from this will be used to fund the next one. There's not a lot of profit involved - I guess I could jack up the price.


My GAS = killed

WTLTL 2011
#40
I don't really have an intention of jacking up the price unless parts prices explode. At the moment buying parts from the States is really advantageous because of how weak the USD is and the most expensive parts (the transformers) come from Chicago. As long as the AUD is worth more than the USD the price will remain the same. The price after the exchange rate is factored in is the only thing that could make them more expensive but I refuse to peg my prices against something as fragile as the USD. I'm doing a China and trading in my native currency and to hell with the IMF.
I fully intend the next 18W Marshall to be Au$650 as well. I'm not greedy I just want to cover my costs and a little extra to keep the whole thing rolling. Not sure what a 5E1/5E3 Fender would cost because of the availability of transformers. Those Classic Tone trannies are what allow me to sell the Marshalls for what I do. They are cheap and damn good. Their 5E1 trannies don't have a 230V tap.

Here's another shot of it taken from above:
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
Last edited by Cathbard at Sep 20, 2011,
Page 1 of 2