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The following are house recs and a general overview of some essential progressive albums.

Starting Out (First timers)
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Jethro Tull - Aqualung
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
Genesis - Foxtrot
Yes - The Yes Album
Primiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico
Rush - Moving Pictures
The Doors - The Doors
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats

Best of...(A level albums)
King Crimson - Red ~ Larks Tongues in Aspic ~ In the Court of the Crimson King
Yes - Close to the Edge ~ Fragile
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick ~ Aqualung
Genesis - A Lamb Lies Down on Broadway ~ Selling England by the Pound ~ Foxtrot
Van Der Graaf Generator - Godbluff
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Camel - Mirage ~ Camel ~ Moonmadness
Gentle Giant - In a Glass House ~ Acquiring the Taste
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
Dead Can Dance - A Serpent's Egg ~ Within the Realm of a Dying Sun
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
Emerson Lake and Palmer - Tarkus ~ Trilogy
Frank Zappa - Overnight Sensation ~ One Size Fits All ~ Sheik Yerbouti ~ Apostrophe
Le Orme - Felona & Sorona ~ Uoma Di Pezzi
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin
Doors - Strange Days ~ Doors ~ Soft Parade
Fripp & Eno - No Pussyfooting ~ Eveningstar ~ Fripptertonics
Magma - Magma (s/t)
Rush - 2112 ~ A Farewell to Kings
The Nice - Thoughts of Emerlist Davjak ~ Ars Longa Vita Brevis ~ Nice

Further Listening...(B level albums)
King Crimson - In the Wake of Posiedon ~ Islands ~ Lizard ~ Starless & Bible Black
Emerson Lake & Palmer - ELP (s/t) ~ Brain Salad Surgery
Jethro Tull - A Passion Play ~ Benefit
Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts ~ Still Life
Pink Floyd - The Wall ~ Meddle ~ Animals ~ Dark Side of the Moon ~ Atom Heart Mother
Dead Can Dance - Spleen & Ideal ~ Dead Can Dance ~ Aion ~ Toward the Within
Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri ~ Zeit ~ Rubycon ~ Ricochet
Camel - Snowgoose Chronicles
Yes - Fragile ~ The Yes Album ~ Tales from Topographic Oceans
Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant (s/t) ~ Octopus ~ The Power and the Glory
Genesis - Nursery Cryme ~ A Trick of the Tale
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero
Soft Machine - The Soft Machine ~ Volume Two ~ Third
Primiata Forneria Marconi - Storia Di Un Minuto
Caravan - In The Land of the Grey and Pink
Primus - Frizzle Fry ~ Sailing the Seas of Cheese ~ Pork Soda
Jacula - In Cauda Semper Stat Venenum ~ Tardo Pede In Magiam Versus
Univers Zero - Uzed ~ Heresie ~ 1313 ~ Ceux du Dehors
Goblin - Various
Can - Tago Mago
Hawkwind - Warriors on the Edge of Time ~ Hall of the Mountain Grill
Rush - Hemispheres ~ Permanent Waves
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire ~ The Inner Mounting Flame
Chicago - The Chicago Transit Authority ~ Chicago II ~ Chicago III


Proto-Prog...(precursor to progressive rock)

The Who - Quadrophrenia ~ Tommy
The Beatles - Sergent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
The Doors - The Soft Parade ~ Strange Days
Deep Purple - Machine Head
Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced?
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin II
Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath ~ Paranoid
Vahalla - Vahalla
Legend - From the Fjords
Cream - Fresh Cream ~ Disraeli Gears

Stylistic Variations of Prog
Progressive Rock, like metal, had various different scenes and stylistic variations in it's heyday. Here are a few with a brief list of bands in each.

Canterbury Scene Prog - Caravan, Soft Machine, Gong, Hatfield and the North, Camel

Krautrock - Ash Rah Tempel, Amon Duul, Gila, Can, Popol Vuh

Eclectic Prog - King Crimson, Van Der Graaf Generator, Gentle Giant, Diagonal, Univers Zero

Neo-Prog - Porcupine Tree, Tangent, Marillion, Gordian Knot, Tool, Oceansize

Prog-folk - Dead Can Dance, Jethro Tull, Gryphon, Comus, Spirogyra

Progressive Electronica - Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Brian Eno, Kraftwerk, Franco Leprino

Italian Prog - Premiata Forneria Marconi, Le Orma, Banco Del Mutuo Succorso, Celeste, Area

Psychedelic / Space Rock - The Doors, Hawkwind, Pink Floyd, Acid Mothers Temple, No-Man

Symphonic Prog - Yes, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Genesis, Camel, Steve Hackett

Prog Archives - like Metal Archives, but with a crappier layout and for progressive bands. A great resource sans most of the reviews / progressive metal additions. The users there are extremely biased (moreso than MA) and generally don't take Hessian values into consideration.

Full Albums for Easy Listening Pleasure
Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here
King Crimson's In the Court of the Crimson King
Pink Floyd's The Wall
Pink Floyd's The Dark Side of the Moon
Pink Floyd's Animals
King Crimson's Red
King Crimson's Larks Tongues in Aspic
Genesis' Foxtrot (Remastered)
Van Der Graaf Generator's Pawn Hearts
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso's Darwin
Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick
Jethro Tull's A Passion Play
King Crimson's In the Wake of Posiedon (great mix)
Genesis' Selling England by the Pound
Genesis' Nursery Crime
The Soft Machine's Third
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#2
Pink Floyd are the greatest band ever. So should we make a list of basic prog for other hessians who aren't in the know?
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#3
Moog, you and I should make a comprehensive list for neophytes. You wanna compile it through our posts since I'm at work
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#4
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#6
aight well first things first, the entry level. King Crimson, Camel, Yes, Genesis. Figure next tier should be stuff like Gentle Giant, VDGG, Soft Machine. Then prolly want a psych/space rock section for shit like Floyd and Acid Mothers Temple. Also should have a Zappa section since most people have no clue where to start with him. I have some other bands I could add to the list, you and Moog will need ot do the other styles that i don't know, like all the italian prog and other obscure shit
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#7
Dream Theater is progressive rock for Mongos

I can make a list tommorow in between class, edit in to first post and we can edit it from there
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Quote by romencer17
Pink Floyd are the greatest band ever.



This.

This thread seems like a good idea, but I don't think that I would be of much help, carry on hessians.
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#10
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Hey proggy, why aren't bands like Pink Floyd and Rush considered progressive?


As for Rush, my initial reaction is that it's basic song structure and leans more towards Hard Rock/Heavy Metal than actual Progressive Rock. I'm unsure about Floyd since I am checking them out at the moment.

Proggy will answer that far more thoroughly than I, though. I iz nube.
#11
Quote by Born Headless
Hey proggy, why aren't bands like Pink Floyd and Rush considered progressive?

The progressive elements present in the music are tacked on almost as an after thought rather than an integral piece of the composition. when stripped down, it reveals itself as popular rock with some prog quirks added on. both bands can still be enjoyable however
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#12
Rush I just see as having a very strong hard rock element on their prog material, and being hard rock for the rest of their material. I still think albums like 2112 and A Farewell To Kings should be noted though.

As for Floyd, matt is a chump. Sure, they lean more towards space/psych rock but just because they aren't as symphonic as Camel or Yes or aren't as quirky and eclectic as King Crimson or GG doesn't make them not prog, that's just silly.
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#15
Quote by romencer17
Rush I just see as having a very strong hard rock element on their prog material, and being hard rock for the rest of their material. I still think albums like 2112 and A Farewell To Kings should be noted though.

As for Floyd, matt is a chump. Sure, they lean more towards space/psych rock but just because they aren't as symphonic as Camel or Yes or aren't as quirky and eclectic as King Crimson or GG doesn't make them not prog, that's just silly.

Don't get me wrong, I love Floyd. I just see most of their material as prog-lite that was meant for a more mainstream audience. let's face it, they are easily the most successful band from that era / genre.
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#17
Where does Tool get put in all of this... I love Tool, also you should all listen to this, my favourite cover version of 21st Century Schizoid Man by a Jazz Band who then turned into a Metal band... I saw them play it live and it was awesome.

"Live" Version

Studio Version

My second favourite cover is the one with the Tool singer in.
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#18
Tool is neoprog, along with Diagonal and Porcupine Tree. Diagonal is more a revivalIst band. All this will be covered tommorow.

and I've seen the jazz covers, so good.
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Quote by progbass
Don't get me wrong, I love Floyd. I just see most of their material as prog-lite that was meant for a more mainstream audience. let's face it, they are easily the most successful band from that era / genre.


Certainly not in the early days...they used to hate playing live with Barrett, and didnt give a shite about reaching a new audience. There was a class documentary on them on last week, on bbc4.
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I want to try that while playing the opening riff to "Tempting Time".

0-0-0-13-0-0-0-0-13 or something like that alalalala but It;s so heavy and off time and awesome and you could not f**k anyone to it.


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#20
Quote by progbass
Don't get me wrong, I love Floyd. I just see most of their material as prog-lite that was meant for a more mainstream audience. let's face it, they are easily the most successful band from that era / genre.


So because they were had more mainstream success then other prog they are somehow makes them lesser prog? riiight. looks like what you like about prog is that it's complex music that most people can't easily get into which makes you feel special, and if that's the case that's just retarded. They all made amazing music that was very innovative and progressive for their time, regardless of how much success any band got.
Free your mind and your ass will follow
The kingdom of heaven is within
Open up your funky mind and you can fly

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#21
Well yeah. Did they show footage of when he was a guest on that talk show and he didn't answer any questions?

its weird how Barrett was the topic of some of their best material. Like in the Wall where he shaves his eyebrows, allegedly Barrett wandered into the studio while they were recording and had his eyebrows shaved. One can also say he was Pink Floyd in the early days, and the main character in the Wall is Pink Floyd...


Edit - it has nothing to do with flashiness or enjoyability. It's just not rooted in the same format / structure as progressive music was, its more akin to rock
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#22
Ok, so how is a song like Echoes or an album like Animals not progressive music? Can you actually point anything specific out, cause all you have said is that they were too mainstream and not enough like standard symphonic prog bands. I don't really see how you can claim a piece like Echoes isn't progressive. Their music just focuses more on emotion and atmosphere than most other prog which I feel is centered around having very complex and technical compositions

but seriosuly, Echoes. Long atmospheric instrumental passages, a huge experimental chunk in the middle with crazy noises and effects, a surreal vibe to the whole thing, lots of improvisation and experimentation with the musical technology they had at the time in general. over 20 minutes in length. Yeah, totally sounds like your standard 1971 rock song.
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#25
I'll humor you.

give me a few days at most to revisit and familiarize myself with the material again. its been ages since I sat down with Floyd. at best, I change my views, at worst, I get anal.
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#28
I'll put forth the outline, you and Rome comb through it, add, subtract, etc.
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#30
I'll elaborate more on this tommorow, but rather than random conversation and recs, I figured we could take turns writing about an album, no matter the obscurity or popularity, and everyone will listen and comment on it for the week. This way the thread has a bit more direction, and anyone can participate.
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#31
that's a sweet idea. it'd be great to get in depth recommendations for prog.
Free your mind and your ass will follow
The kingdom of heaven is within
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#32
Agreed

But I think we should still get an essentials list going, to get the ball rolling if you catch my drift
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#35
expecting something along the lines of "damn negroes ruined my prog"
Free your mind and your ass will follow
The kingdom of heaven is within
Open up your funky mind and you can fly

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#36
I was ok with it til he got to the Talking to the trees line.

the percussion ruins the ethereal atmosphere of original.

I've seen worse Crimson covers though
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#37
pretty much what i expected, oh well. it was worth a try
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#39
So, I know Rome does, but do any of you others enjoy the long/drawn-out/experimental/psychedelic jam sessions often found in prog music? As much as I love In the Court of the Crimson King I find myself always wanting to skip the instrumental part in Moonchild. That's the only part of the album I don't enjoy and I have a problem enjoying this type of thing in all music. Will it grow on you? I don't see what there is to appreciate about most of it...
#40
Well, Primus is littered with them and I got used to it in my early years. As for Moonchild, I was driving at night with a light rain as I first listened to the album, and lightning was flashing in the distance, wounding the sky. I was so moved that I still have a soft spot for it, but it is definately not the best jam track they have done.

all the good ones are on Starless and Bible Black. Jams are great when they are tastefully executed. Have you listened to Fripp & Eno's No Pussyfooting yet?
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