#1
I'm new in this forum, so bear with my unfamiliarity with the forum if it becomes a nuisance.

I'm currently practicing on a soundking ak15g but the tone is horrid and all I can do with it is push it into overdrive and equalize because the built-in "overdrive" is pretty bad.
I'm looking for a better sounding practice amp to which I could plug pedals to, since I want to start practicing using pedals.
Since I was a ****ing slacker I'm on a basic-intermedium level with some knowledge on advanced techniques so I'm not certain if a tube amplifier would be too much.

I have a bucket of 200 to 300 $ for it but I don't have a lot of options because, Peru.

So I'm between the Vox ac15vr, the Vox pathfinder 15r and the Fender Frontman 25r, what is the best among these for a practimce amp?

Finally, how close a solid state amplifier can sound to a tube amplifier by using a tube pre-amplifier?
#2
dont waste money in pedals , buy a decent AMP , go for a peavey vypyr 30 watts, its very versatile amp and fun to play with . There are a lot of features and different settings and presets you can save on the amp.

Check that one out.
#3
But I want to "waste" money on pedals. wat do?
I'm looking for something vintage sounding.
#4
What do you mean by "I'm not certain if a tube amplifier would be too much"? Too much in what way? Too much quality of tone or too expensive? If the former, how is that possible?
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#5
Will you be willing to throw a $150 delay, $100 chorus & $150 wah on a $200 amp? Going with individual pedals will give you better quality and flexibility, but aren't the cheapest. You could get the Vypyr 30 + sanpera footswitch, have a decent tone & decent effects and only pay a little over $300.
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#6
I'd go for the Vox's or the Vypyr's.

The Frontman is kinda ish.

I got my Vypyr 60 for $315 USD. That is what I recommend. Effects sound decent.

FYI - most amps with a 12AX7 tube in the preamp is a bit of gimmick. <flameshield>
#7
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
FYI - most amps with a 12AX7 tube in the preamp is a bit of gimmick. <flameshield>

A Fender Champ only has one 12AX7 in the preamp.


Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#8
To say the truth, I've heard and played Peavey before and I was indifferent to it's sound, like it would only work on metal. I really don't like it and nobody in Peru have the Vypyr series.
#10
Quote by walruswalrus
To say the truth, I've heard and played Peavey before and I was indifferent to it's sound, like it would only work on metal. I really don't like it and nobody in Peru have the Vypyr series.


Might want to check out this vid on youtube (vypyr 60 tube) to see what it can do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AH-SpQ1iHE

Too bad you don't have a local dealer.
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Fender HM Strat
Kemper KPA
5150 III 50w & cabs
#11
A lot of people like the Pathfinder and say that if you run it into an ext cab it really sounds good. If you are buying pedals I think that's the best option of the 3.
#12
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...d.php?t=1387138

Answer those questions ^ and you'll get better responses.

I only missed what genres, home or gig and new or used.
I may use it for practicing along with a drummer.
I can get a good price around here so it doesn't matters if it's new or used, just if it's a good amp; and as for what genres, is kind of a mishmash of things I listen to: Dick Dale, Korn, 6gig, the Boo Radleys, Faith no More, Squeeze, that sort of things.
#13
Quote by Cathbard
A Fender Champ only has one 12AX7 in the preamp.




You know what he meant

Just to play along, the vox ac4s, (i think) the blackstar ht-1 have 1 12AX7.......just adding on.

OT: If you're so inclined to blow money on pedals why not just get a small tube amp like all of ^^^^^^those (fender champ is great for a small budget) and buy all the pedals you want.

If you're going to get an SS, most of them will have effects and everything you need, well maybe except a wah and a looper if you wish.
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#14
I saw some reviews on this site on the fender frontman 25r that said it was a fairly good practice amplifier.
If I were to put a tube preamp pedal like the EHX Tube EQ or EHX LPB 2ube on it, how close the sound could get to that of a tube amp?
#15
Don't waste your time with a tube preamp. There are tube distortion pedals that sound good. But there are also SS distortion pedals that sound good. Buy a pedal because of the sound. The use of a tube is not the discriminator.
#16
Don't waste your time with a tube preamp. There are tube distortion pedals that sound good. But there are also SS distortion pedals that sound good. Buy a pedal because of the sound. The use of a tube is not the discriminator.


Thanks, as I suspected tubes are used as a gimmick on a lot of equipment.
I'm thinking of the Fender Frontman since in god damned Peru no one sells the lower lines of Vox, but there's a fairly good amount of brands of pedals so if the clean tone is good enough that may do it for me.
#17
I tell ya... if I was in a country where guitar gear was expensive, I would consider a regular audio power amp and a guitar cab. Even just audio speakers if you get a multifx. That's assuming standard audio gear is cheap. Then save your money and maybe one day you'll find a great deal on a tube amp used or new.

I know that advice will freak a lot of people out, but I have a stereo power amp that I use with a miced amp (and other stuff). But also can run a multifx straight into. In the past I hooked it up to a 2x12 cab and it sounded pretty good. Of course that's only good for the studio. If you need to take it with, then a guitar amp is necessary.
#18
The only cabinets I've seen here are 100w and up and way more expensive than the Vox AC30 that I actually want.