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#1
do solid state amps respond to different pickups like tube amps do?
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#2
hey..

yes, kinda every amp responds differently to pickups etc..
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#4
Yes.
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#6
In my experience they do.
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#8
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The HD500 would be a great buy, and there would be virtually no lag between patches and such. I used to own a Pod X3 live for a short time, and was happy with everything, except for the fact that my tone would change to much plugging into various sound boards.


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#9
Try not to think of it in terms of SS vs tube. Just think of it as good amps vs bad amps. Good amps will have good response, bad amps won't.
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#10
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Try not to think of it in terms of SS vs tube. Just think of it as good amps vs bad amps. Good amps will have good response, bad amps won't.


depends of a lot of things...

for example: a twin reverb will respond REALLY differently to a pickup, than the same pickup will for a Powerball..
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#13
thanks. i was under the impression for some reason that if i have a SS amp it wouldn't make any difference at all if i swapped pickups thanks guys. BTW when i get my b-52 up and running i'm selling the fender!
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#14
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thanks. i was under the impression for some reason that if i have a SS amp it wouldn't make any difference at all if i swapped pickups thanks guys. BTW when i get my b-52 up and running i'm selling the fender!

I think that comes from the litany of threads with people wanting to spend $100-$200 on new pick ups when that money could be better spent on a better amp (where a pick up change often can make a major difference). I had a Fender Frontman when I got here and one of my first threads was asking about some pickups.

That feels like 10 years ago

Have fun with the B52 and make sure you do a NAD for it. I like those amps - especially for the price.
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I think that comes from the litany of threads with people wanting to spend $100-$200 on new pick ups when that money could be better spent on a better amp (where a pick up change often can make a major difference). I had a Fender Frontman when I got here and one of my first threads was asking about some pickups.

That feels like 10 years ago

Have fun with the B52 and make sure you do a NAD for it. I like those amps - especially for the price.


till i get a few higher priced guitars i'm gonna stick with stuff like GFS cuz there's no sense spending half the value of the guitar on pickups. BTW would an ESP-LTD M-10 or M-15 be a good backup guitar? i only have my squier and since i'm gonna start gigging within a month i need a backup

EDIT: NAD thread is imminent!
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^Save a bit more for a 50 or a 100.; Even tose are a bit patchy- very inconsistent quality control. You might get an awesome axe or you might get a lemon.


i'll look into that for sure, thanks bro!
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#18
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^Save a bit more for a 50 or a 100.; Even tose are a bit patchy- very inconsistent quality control. You might get an awesome axe or you might get a lemon.


FWIW I really like my H-51, it's only $199 on MF, same price as my old squier standard but miles better imo, but then again maybe I just got a good one. Try before you buy if you can TS.
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#19
have to play devil's advocate here and say no they won't react the same as a tube amp. a change of pickups can result in a different sound but most solid state amps won't show as big a difference. if the pickups aren't very different from what you were using you may not notice much or any difference in sound. tubes give a more harmonically complex tone than solid state. tubes can be somewhat unpredictable vs the sameness of solid state. often the difference found in pickups is found by how they interact with the harmonics. say you have 2 PAF style pickups from different companies in theory they should sound the same. often this isn't the case although the varience may be slight. through a solid state amp you may not hear the slight mid bump or rolled off treble.

point is to think hard about what pickups you want to go to and how big of a change they would be. the bigger the change the more likely you will hear it. also keep in mind that cheaper amps have crappier speakers that may not have the dynamics to reproduce some of the little nuances so once again something that would be noticable on a better amp (be it tube or SS) might not be so appearent on a cheapie.
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have to play devil's advocate here and say no they won't react the same as a tube amp. a change of pickups can result in a different sound but most solid state amps won't show as big a difference. if the pickups aren't very different from what you were using you may not notice much or any difference in sound. tubes give a more harmonically complex tone than solid state. tubes can be somewhat unpredictable vs the sameness of solid state. often the difference found in pickups is found by how they interact with the harmonics. say you have 2 PAF style pickups from different companies in theory they should sound the same. often this isn't the case although the varience may be slight. through a solid state amp you may not hear the slight mid bump or rolled off treble.

point is to think hard about what pickups you want to go to and how big of a change they would be. the bigger the change the more likely you will hear it. also keep in mind that cheaper amps have crappier speakers that may not have the dynamics to reproduce some of the little nuances so once again something that would be noticable on a better amp (be it tube or SS) might not be so appearent on a cheapie.


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#21
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have to play devil's advocate here and say no they won't react the same as a tube amp. a change of pickups can result in a different sound but most solid state amps won't show as big a difference. if the pickups aren't very different from what you were using you may not notice much or any difference in sound. tubes give a more harmonically complex tone than solid state. tubes can be somewhat unpredictable vs the sameness of solid state. often the difference found in pickups is found by how they interact with the harmonics. say you have 2 PAF style pickups from different companies in theory they should sound the same. often this isn't the case although the varience may be slight. through a solid state amp you may not hear the slight mid bump or rolled off treble.

point is to think hard about what pickups you want to go to and how big of a change they would be. the bigger the change the more likely you will hear it. also keep in mind that cheaper amps have crappier speakers that may not have the dynamics to reproduce some of the little nuances so once again something that would be noticable on a better amp (be it tube or SS) might not be so appearent on a cheapie.


so tubes react more... but SS reacts.. less?
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#22
it's a different signal from pickup to pickup.

everything will react.

the point is that a bad amp will still sound like bad.
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#23
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do solid state amps respond to different pickups like tube amps do?

I think it depends on how you ask the question...


do solid state amps respond to different pickups like tube amps do?
do solid state amps respond to different pickups like tube amps do?
do solid state amps respond to different pickups like tube amps do?
do solid state amps respond to different pickups like tube amps do?
#24
Quote by IronMaiden76
so tubes react more... but SS reacts.. less?


not so much a matter of more or less but rather differently. it comes down to the way each circuit sees the incoming signal. the reason many prefer tubes is the way the harmonic structure of the signal is affected by tubes. it is more pleasing to the ear especially when you get into distorted signals. SS still lags in this dept because no one has found a way to totally simulate the unpredictable way tubes react. many things can cause a tube to sound just a little different (voltage, heat etc) these things really don't come into play with SS. SS tends to see a signal one way and that's it. some of the really high end ones do a much better job but still not exactly like a tube.

what it comes down to is whether your amp can process the little things your pickups have to offer that give it an individual character. tubes just tend to do a better job at this. as i said if your pickups offer a very different signal than wha you originally had then you will notice a difference either way. on the other hand the amp might only notice the difference in output and not much else in some cases. this leads to grumbling by guys who swap pups figuring that suddenly they would have awesome tone. this is a big reason you hear "get a new amp" here so often. a 15 watt MG for instance just can't do justice to a boutique pup.
#25
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FWIW I really like my H-51, it's only $199 on MF, same price as my old squier standard but miles better imo, but then again maybe I just got a good one. Try before you buy if you can TS.

I have an H-51 too. Why? It felt better in my hands than the more expensive H100

And SS amps will react differently to a tube amp cause the tech used is different. Whether the resulting sound is good or not is upto your ears to decide.
Regardless of whether its a tube amp, an SS amp, a pedal or a modeller or whatever
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#26
i find that some overdrive channels on solid state amps are a bit fuzzed out and don't really sound all that different unless you're using very different guitars.

for example i have an old HH IC100 which is a bit like that. the cleans are very transparent but the overdrive only really lets you hear the difference in frequency content and output from guitar to guitar because it has so much artificial transistorized gain that just can't be adjusted. so, for example, a telecaster with single coils will give you a bit less gain and more bite whereas a les paul will be more gainy and have a thicker sound, but really you can't hear whether it's a tele or a les paul. it just crunches up the sound far too much.

it depends on the amp basically.
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#27
i think i understand now. my b-52 ls 100 is on the way, so we'll see how that does.
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#28
Quote by IronMaiden76
do solid state amps respond to different pickups like tube amps do?

Yes. In my opinion, the guitar's pickup is the main source of sound for all kinds of pickups.
#30
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do solid state amps respond to different pickups like tube amps do?


oh yeah totally. but like, since solid state amps are different from tube amps then they respond to different pickups... er, um... differently.

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#35
SO.. MUCH... DIFFERENTLY... oh well. i have a water bottle for the journey across the desert and wild onions grow im my yard so i guess you can borrow it for your journey
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#37
you confused me a little
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#39
excuse me?
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do solid state amps respond to different pickups like tube amps do?

No.
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