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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15004063

What if those new jeans you've just bought start tweeting about your location as you cross London Bridge?

It sounds far-fetched, but it's possible - if one of your garments is equipped with a tiny radio-frequency identification device (RFID), your location could be revealed without you knowing about it.

RFIDs are chips that use radio waves to send data to a reader - which in turn can be connected to the web.

This technology is just one of the current ways of allowing physical objects to go online - a concept dubbed the "internet of things", which industry insiders have shortened to IoT

This is when not only your PC, tablet and smartphone can connect to the web, but also your car, your home, your baseball cap and even the sheep and cows on a farm.

And as we switch from IPv4 towards IPv6, which will support some 340 trillion trillion trillion addresses, more and more objects will jump into the web.

Smart buildings and intelligent cars with assigned IP addresses are already making cities smarter - and soon enough, the entire planet may follow



and the best part of the article.

"A typical city of the future in a full IoT situation could be a matrix-like place with smart cameras everywhere, detectors and non-invasive neurosensors scanning your brain for over-activity in every street," says Rob van Kranenburg, a member of the European Commission's IoT expert group.

Over-thinking Make sure you don't think too much or they'll put you away for being a bad consumer.
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#3
does that include bowel movements?
There's no such thing; there never was. Where I am going you cannot follow me now.
#5
People think they're far more important than they really are. Nobody gives a shit that you were at Kohl's at 3:40 pm.


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#6
Don't tell the paranoid schizophrenic population.
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#7
RFIDs aren't something new.
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Just because something can happen, it does?

If it's incedibly easy to do and is very helpful for the people in power then yes i expect it will happen. Make sure you don't do any overthinking too, thinking is bad for the system.
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If it's incedibly easy to do and is very helpful for the people in power then yes i expect it will happen. Make sure you don't do any overthinking too, thinking is bad for the system.

It's just not possible to track thoughts like that. The best they can do is guess how alert you are. Rest easy.

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People think they're far more important than they really are. Nobody gives a shit that you were at Kohl's at 3:40 pm.


This.

I doubt they'd be looking into you unless they suspect you of being a terrorist or something to that extreme.
#12
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If it's incedibly easy to do and is very helpful for the people in power then yes i expect it will happen. Make sure you don't do any overthinking too, thinking is bad for the system.

Like Stuart said, why would the government care about me going shopping for clothes?
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Make sure you don't do any overthinking too, thinking is bad for the system.
Like you clearly did to arrive to the same conclusion that you always do...?
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-_- Do you guys have to make Zoot the new Fassa?

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-_- Do you guys have to make Zoot the new Fassa?

No. He's doing well enough without our help.
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#18
The tracking is most likely going to be used for stuff like market research and optimal centres of development (due to a large amount of the population going here or there etc). I'd say it's harmless unless you're engaged in some illegal activity that the government can use the data to use as evidence against you (where you were at what time for how long).
#19
I'm not even that paranoid.
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#21
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It's just not possible to track thoughts like that. The best they can do is guess how alert you are. Rest easy.

He was speaking hypothetically, the article isn't about tracking thoughts, however the fact that someone like that is even bringing it up is terrible, he doesn't seem to be saying it in a negative light at all.
#23
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This is kind of cool but weird.


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#24
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People think they're far more important than they really are. Nobody gives a shit that you were at Kohl's at 3:40 pm.

I agree in general, but the data could be important for market research.
#25
Professor Griff talked about this in an interview I watched on youtube a few months ago. Don't really care though.
#27
The most immediately worrying thing about this is that there is a very real possibility that you may buy an RFID equipped item without knowing it. Technology like this makes it less and less likely for consumers to have the encyclopædic knowledge of every product they may purchase, which is going to be antithetical to the efficiency of markets. Although you may not care if you're getting tracked by Walmart, this is a sign of a much larger problem for you.

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Just because something can happen, it does?

He said "potentially," dood.
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People think they're far more important than they really are. Nobody gives a shit that you were at Kohl's at 3:40 pm.


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This. Get over yourselves conspiracy theorists. The government doesn't give a shit what you do. Most of you look insane to the general public anyways.
#29


What will I do with this information? They've probably got this sort of stuff in use in more ways than we know about already. It's not gonna change the way I live, so fuck it. They can track me all they want.
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This. Get over yourselves conspiracy theorists. The government doesn't give a shit what you do. Most of you look insane to the general public anyways.

Even the most ardent supporters of capitalism should be worried about this, considering it's a sign that unaccounted technology is destroying the system by taking advantage of consumers. Which, of course, means it is a very real message of how the demand side of the economy knows less and less about the products they're buying every day. And not by choice, either. How is capitalism going to work when people don't even know what they're buying?

This isn't a tinfoil crisis, this is a signal of a glaring problem the economy is facing.
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Even the most ardent supporters of capitalism should be worried about this, considering it's a sign that unaccounted technology is destroying the system by taking advantage of consumers. Which, of course, means it is a very real message of how the demand side of the economy knows less and less about the products they're buying every day. And not by choice, either. How is capitalism going to work when people don't even know what they're buying?

This isn't a tinfoil crisis, this is a signal of a glaring problem the economy is facing.


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#32
That much data would be completely impossible to analyse without giving every single important task to computers, for which they would have to be near-sentient.

Should that ever happen, I'd be worrying more about a Terminator scenario than a 1984.

EDIT: I meant impossible to analyse with the intent of controlling people.
#33
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What in here have i said that isn't linked directly to what the bbc article says? The idea of movements being tracked is pointed out in the article.

edit: and then you have shit like this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and-website-to-be-stored.html
and think that being concerned makes someone insane..
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#34
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What in here have i said that isn't linked directly to what the bbc article says? The idea of movements being tracked is pointed out in the article.

They can do it with mobile phones too. They did a study on human behaviour using it not too long ago.

...still not a police state though...
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#36
But we're still not a police state.

Ergo, you are hittin' the paras.
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#37
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What in here have i said that isn't linked directly to what the bbc article says? The idea of movements being tracked is pointed out in the article.

I think the blindly jingoistic hate for you has grown closely correlated with the "Leave Ethan Alone!" bandwagon. It's an interesting phenomenon.
#39
I don't hate Zoot. I think a lot of his views are off the wall, but I don't hate him.


Ethan, on the other hand...
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#40
Not really too worried. And if you're really worried about what you're buying and the government 'tracking' you then watch you buy, where you share information and what that information is that you share.

If you're really worried about anyone tracking you I'd be worried about the 'new' Facebook. That is just herrondous
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