#1
I plugged into my first amp today that wasn't a line 6 15 watt and i was amazed with the MG100HDFX. I first tried out a fender of similar size but its distorted tone sucked balls. The MG100HDFX had such a warm distortion and even with the drive on 10 it still harsh and was easy to control. I was also really impressed by the crunch channel and was able to get a perfect smoke on the water tone instantly

I was wondering how much better is a the JCM/JVM range. Is the distortion warmer? is the clean channel better? and is it worth the extra money?

Hoping to find someone who has played both or owned both. The type of tone i want is kinda like iron maiden, joe satriani, sabbath etc.
#2
Indescribably better, and vastly worth the extra money.
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#3
Quote by Slash_is_a_God
Indescribably better, and vastly worth the extra money.



^^^^^^^^^^

If you want something quieter the cleans on the JC might fall short a bit but the distortion is better.
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#6
+1 to all comments so far. That moment you had when you plugged into he MG and realised how much better than your previous amp it was. That is how you will feel when/if you plug into a 'real' Marshall and compare it to the MG
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#7
how about a budget?

do you gig or play with a drummer much, or ever?

what guitars do you use?

and stuff like that which would lend better recommendations?
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#8
I'm guessing you tried out a fender frontman? Try a tube amp, you will be surprised

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#9
Another question .

What is considered the best out of the JVM and JCM range? Im looking for something with very very good warm sounding distortion but at the same time has very ambient and soft cleans.
#10
Quote by mrbabo91
I was wondering how much better is a the JCM/JVM range. Is the distortion warmer? is the clean channel better? and is it worth the extra money
Are you serious? Comparing the higher-ranged Marshalls to the MG line is like comparing a Bugatti to a Mini Moto car.
#11
Quote by mrbabo91
Another question .

What is considered the best out of the JVM and JCM range? Im looking for something with very very good warm sounding distortion but at the same time has very ambient and soft cleans.

how about answering the questions asked of you so this isn't the tenthousand eleventieth useless thread in GG&A?

I wondered why the frisbee was getting bigger, then it hit me.
#12
Budget. Hoping to get one used in good condition. £300-500

It needs to be suitable for home use and playing small gigs.

Im looking for a very warm and easy to handle distortion that can achieve tones like iron maiden, judas priest, satriani, gilbert, dream theatre etc.

I use an epiphone les paul standard with super distortion pickups in the bridge and seymour duncan hotrails in the neck.


and yes it was the fender frontman
#13
Quote by gregs1020
how about answering the questions asked of you so this isn't the tenthousand eleventieth useless thread in GG&A?




sorry ,you posted the same time as i did.
#14
Quote by mrbabo91
Budget. Hoping to get one used in good condition. £300-500

It needs to be suitable for home use and playing small gigs.

Im looking for a very warm and easy to handle distortion that can achieve tones like iron maiden, judas priest, satriani, gilbert, dream theatre etc.

I use an epiphone les paul standard with super distortion pickups in the bridge and seymour duncan hotrails in the neck.


and yes it was the fender frontman


imo the best answer in your last thread was.

Quote by Dave_Mc
traynor ycv50b on thomann, most likely.

if you can stretch a bit more (i.e. you'd need a cab) laney gh50/100L



good luck and thanks for answering us.


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sorry ,you posted the same time as i did.

sorry bro, i had too much coffee.
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#15
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#16
Quote by gregs1020
imo the best answer in your last thread was.


good luck and thanks for answering us.


sorry bro, i had too much coffee.



Marshalls tend to be more common in the used market so would you know which marshall i should go for if i get the chance?
#17
That Traynor will get you Marshall esque tones for cheap. And you can drop it out of a third floor window and all you'd need to replace are the tubes, and it'll keep working.

EDIT: That's probably just the chassis now that I re-read that xD. The speaker might sustain damage if you drop the whole combo out of the window, hahaha. My point is that they're relatively inexpensive, but are tanks, and still sound great.
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#18
Used ceriatone 1974 combo with the ppimv mod.
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#19
I'm honestly not a big fan of the JVM, but in this case, it utterly destroys the MG. The MG is one of the worst amps ever made.
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#20
On a budget of 500 pounds you might want to look at the Marshall DSL 50 or the Traynor YCV50B.
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#21
Quote by gregs1020
imo the best answer in your last thread was.


good luck and thanks for answering us.



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#22
Quote by mrbabo91
Budget. Hoping to get one used in good condition. £300-500

It needs to be suitable for home use and playing small gigs.

Im looking for a very warm and easy to handle distortion that can achieve tones like iron maiden, judas priest, satriani, gilbert, dream theatre etc.

I use an epiphone les paul standard with super distortion pickups in the bridge and seymour duncan hotrails in the neck.


and yes it was the fender frontman


Hot Rails in the neck of a Les Paul? I thought those were single coils
#24
Quote by Ian_the_fox
They're Single-Coil sized humbuckers (and they sound fucking amazing). They can fit with a bit of help from this: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/allparts-humbucker-to-single-coil-pickup-conversion-ring

Why would you want to use those in a Les Paul, though? That converter is to use single coil pickups, not single coil sized humbuckers.

They sound ok in a strat, because the Strat either:

A) Can't fit regular sized humbuckers
B) Will have to have the pickguard replaced
C) Will look dumb with one in it instead of single coil sized pickups

But they are far from amazing in a guitar that can use full sized humbuckers
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#25
Quote by MatrixClaw
Why would you want to use those in a Les Paul, though? That converter is to use single coil pickups, not single coil sized humbuckers.

They sound ok in a strat, because the Strat either:

A) Can't fit regular sized humbuckers
B) Will have to have the pickguard replaced
C) Will look dumb with one in it instead of single coil sized pickups

But they are far from amazing in a guitar that can use full sized humbuckers


You summed up what I was about to say.
#26
Quote by MatrixClaw
Why would you want to use those in a Les Paul, though? That converter is to use single coil pickups, not single coil sized humbuckers.

They sound ok in a strat, because the Strat either:

A) Can't fit regular sized humbuckers
B) Will have to have the pickguard replaced
C) Will look dumb with one in it instead of single coil sized pickups

But they are far from amazing in a guitar that can use full sized humbuckers


i'd love to hear how it sounds. despite being kinda odd i personally have to give the guy some credit for doing something different. if that gives him a sound that others don't have then more power to him.
#27
A JVM or JCM would rape the unholy crap out of a MG tone wise...it's not even a contest...If you think the MG sounds good...which idk how you can, then the JCM or JVM will blow your mind out the back side of your skull with tone.

Heck...My Valveking rapes it, and it's around the same price.