#1
I would like to pickup a British voiced amp (EL34 power section) for around the said price range.

I would like it to be

100 watts
2-3 channels
Have enough gain to do old school 80s metal (from Saxon and Scorpions to Slayer and Sepultura) and early 90s Grunge and Death Metal. But not so much gain that it just gets super saturated (all my current amps seem to be in this area)
I want tone more than gain I want to be able to do the whole British sound no problem from 60s/70s hard rock to 80s/90s metal.

Some amps I have been looking at are:

Kustom Double Cross
Laney VH100R
Marshall JVM 210H
Peavey Butcher
#3
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Of the amps you've listed, the Laney and the Marshall are your best bets. The Kustom is a high gain metal amp (and a very good one) and IIRC the Butcher is a hybrid that isn't likely to do what you want. You could also look at Carvin's X100B.

http://www.carvinguitars.com/products/single.php?product=X100B


The Butcher isn't a hybrid. The old ones were basically JCM 800s but the newer ones are a lot higher gain from what I understand.



And yeah, the JVM or the Laney are your best bets.
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#8
that marshall is a solid amp....if its in your budget then why the hell not?
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#9
I would've said a Hiwatt. Not sure how much they go for new/used though.

EDIT: Don't listen to me, I didn't read the entire post.
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#10
The VH100R is a great choice. You might want to look into their new Ironheart amps, they are supposed to be aimed more at metal than the GH and VH. I've only seem vids of the Ironheart and most were dialled in pretty bad but one or two sounded fantastic, I guess that speaks to a fairly wide range of tones available. No idea on price but worth a look, it might be exactly what you are looking for.
No idea on prices, I'd do some investigating.
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#12
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So the Butcher is too high gain? Which is better between the VH100R and JVM210H?


No, it's just higher gain than the JCM 800 which it was based on. The 800 isn't quite a br00t4l amp on its own, it would need a boost to hit death metal.

Consider Splawn Quickrod or a Nitro as well, great amps. You might want to also look at the Soldano Avenger, but that's a one-channel amp. There's also the two channel version, the Soldano Hot Rod.

You might also check out the Peavey 6534+, it's a 6505+ with EL34s and a slightly different circuit.
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#13
Out of a VH100R and a JVM the VH kicks the Marshall's arse to hell and back without raising a sweat.
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Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
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#14
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What does the Carvin X100B sound better with EL34s or 6L6s?


It sounds a bit smoother with the EL34 tubes. If you're going for a "British" sound, then you'll definitely want to run it with EL34s.

Splawns are great amplifiers, but they are made to order so availability might be an issue. The last I heard, they were quoting a completion time of about eight weeks. I don't know if this has changed with their increased popularity and public profile. They've been getting a lot more press lately, so demand has probably increased.
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#15
Well I don't want a super high gain amp that can do the brutz. I already have amps that do that. I want something that is mid gain to low high gain that if I wanted to do early (and I mean like Leprosy, Alter of Madness/Blessed are the Sick, Deicide and Barnes era CC. But I want that to be at the very extreme end of what the amp can do. I want to have to push the amp to reach those tones. I want this thing mainly as a brit style amp for thrash stuff and MAINLY 70/80s Hard Rock and NWOBHM. Stuff like early Maiden, Van Halen, AC/DC, Kiss, Led Zeppeling, Saxon, early Priest, Motorhead and blues stuff like Cream.
#16
marshall vintage modern? ever checked it out? they are pretty sweet sounding maps IMO. played a gibby traditional through it and it made me want both the amp and the guitar. almost put em all on layaway
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#17
^True. The Marshall Vintage Modern would also be a good choice; either the 50-watt or the 100-watt.
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#18
and note the 50w is loud as hell so thatll save you on the cost side
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#20
Well the amps I listed would do fine for all that as well.

But since you want low-mid gain stuff, you could also consider a Budda Superdrive. Great amps.
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marshall vintage modern? ever checked it out? they are pretty sweet sounding maps IMO. played a gibby traditional through it and it made me want both the amp and the guitar. almost put em all on layaway


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marshall vintage modern? ever checked it out? they are pretty sweet sounding maps IMO. played a gibby traditional through it and it made me want both the amp and the guitar. almost put em all on layaway
This.
#23
The Vintage Modern is a single channel amp with KT66s and thats not really want I am aiming for. If I see one when I go try the others, then for sure I will jam on it but spec wise it is not what I want.
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Oh and I already have a Marshall 6100LM so how different would the VM sound to that?

If you already have a 6100, what do you need another British voiced amp for? That thing will cover all of the bands you listed.
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#26
Its too warm and raw. I dunno, I like the tones I get out of it but its too similar to what I'm getting out of my Mark IV and I want something completely different.
#27
then you shouold be looking along the lines of a good eq rather then a new amp. better to switch from warm to bright on a button press then changing amps. and as the vintage modern suggests, it covers vintage tones to modern stuff too

*EDIT* and dont let the single channel turn u off, i mean unless you going to be using it for gigs u can very easily roll back the guitar volume to get clean and back up for grit.
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#28
^You could also get an A/B box and switch between you existing amps and a new single-channel amp like the Vintage Modern or whatever.
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#29
go play the VM....your opinions will change.
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#30
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#31
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#32
this thread is going nowhere with all these recommendations because anyone here would highly advise not buying an amp till you've played it. go to your GC, Samash, local shop w/e play the amps they have in your price range. its really the only option at this point. if they carry an item but not in store they can special order it.
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