What is the Future of Heavy metal, or music for that matter?

#1
I'd like to bring up this topic, because I believe it's most necessary as fans of metal and good music in general.

The music industry works just like the economy of the world, imagine a spectrum, left(socialism), center(mixed), and right(capitalism). Right now the economy is in deep shit, not just North America but most of the world. What happens in a time of crisis like this, let me tell you that no one can stick to one economical system such as Pure Capitalism or pure Communism, both have there setbacks, so at times like these we tend to sway a bit in the opposite direction to fix our problems. Same thing should be done with the music industry if it is going this bad, and that's what they'll try to do, they'll self invest by taking as much money from mainstream artists and then re-invest with people that actually have talent, and thus we have another great musical period....If it happens of course ....

Look the only way things can work is if we bring perhaps something new, but something good, let's take Deep Purple for an example. This band is GOD, they had a great idea of what they were doing, they organised everything, improv was as equivilant to an orchestral performance, that being said, a strong portion of bands out there lack this musical quality. But let's talk about simplicity like the Norwegian bands. Sure their music is simple, but it also represents and explores many deep emotions. If we can somehow find a balance between skill and meaning and given a new idea I think it might work.

But these are only suggestions, and I don't want this to end up in a pointless rant, so I'll let it up to you fine people.
#6
i guess teh industry is like the stock markets............on 1 hand, we have things goin up like with the new metallica venture, but on d other we have stocks (music industry) goin down with burzum and norwegian bands............................. i guess its just like gandhi said 'an eye for an eye leaves the world blind' so we should all just get along in the music industry, and if the stock markets do that too then ther'll be no crisis
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#7
well said stranglehold....well said.

Seriously though, the less the music industry has to do with music, the better.

Ohhh, I get it not, TS is one of those "there's no good modern music, we need to relive the 60s/70s mannn"
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#8
This thread reminds of one that I did a few years ago. Not exactly the same topic, but similar, so it just reminded me. Here it is https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=701430.

This is what I was saying back then. I obviously had some kind of chip on my shoulder for KsE. I did know a few people back then who really liked them & trook me to one of their shows. Still one of the worst shows I've ever been to. Glad I don't hear much about 'em anymore.

EDIT: Wow, I just read the whole thing. Pretty freakin stupid, looking back! Some good points were made, but overall a waste of time.
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#9
More goats,bullets and blastbeats hopefully.
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#10
Not lookin good. Who knows though Rebbaca Black has some potential.
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#11
bestial and war metal go mainstream with synth breakdowns and autotuned clean choruses. Not to mention the occasional djent riff.
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Après avoir crevé par accès de furie
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#13
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The music industry works just like the economy of the world, imagine a spectrum, left(socialism), center(mixed), and right(capitalism). Right now the economy is in deep shit, not just North America but most of the world. What happens in a time of crisis like this, let me tell you that no one can stick to one economical system such as Pure Capitalism or pure Communism, both have there setbacks, so at times like these we tend to sway a bit in the opposite direction to fix our problems. Same thing should be done with the music industry if it is going this bad, and that's what they'll try to do, they'll self invest by taking as much money from mainstream artists and then re-invest with people that actually have talent, and thus we have another great musical period....If it happens of course ....

I don't know if this is a troll or not, but your analogy is pretty terrible. It betrays the actual nature and complexities of the music industry. Even for the narrow domain upon which you've chosen to focus, it doesn't really work.

Look the only way things can work is if we bring perhaps something new, but something good, let's take Deep Purple for an example. This band is GOD, they had a great idea of what they were doing, they organised everything, improv was as equivilant to an orchestral performance, that being said, a strong portion of bands out there lack this musical quality. But let's talk about simplicity like the Norwegian bands. Sure their music is simple, but it also represents and explores many deep emotions. If we can somehow find a balance between skill and meaning and given a new idea I think it might work.

Even if we grant your initial premise, this paragraph is too incoherent to even address. I suggest you truly think about what it is you're trying to say before you post.

To answer the general question: 1) The whole old school Death Metal schtick has been slowly but surely moving in a positive direction. 2) There are a handful of Black Metal bands still putting out decent to good material.

The future will either be putrefaction or a revitalization of vision. The latter means returning to ideas and allowing form to follow. We are in a time where obsession of form rules in its various permutations.
#14
The metal industry has always been poor. I mean, Christ, non-metal fans can only name a couple metal bands, whereas metal fans can name quite a few non-metal bands. Obviously the metal industry isn't going to be affected by a declining economy, it's not much of an industry to begin with.

I agree with the Rebecca Black comment. There's nothing more relaxing at 3am then listening to an auto-tuned thirteen year old singing about partying on a Friday night. Maybe it's just the pedophile in me There's a party in my pants and you're invited, Ms. Black.
Well, I think I'll go turn myself off an' go on down
All the way down...
Really ain't no use in me hanging around
You know what I'm trying to say
Music, sweet music
I wish I could caress, and-a kiss
Manic Depression is a fustrating mess
#15
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I don't know if this is a troll or not, but your analogy is pretty terrible. It betrays the actual nature and complexities of the music industry. Even for the narrow domain upon which you've chosen to focus, it doesn't really work.


Even if we grant your initial premise, this paragraph is too incoherent to even address. I suggest you truly think about what it is you're trying to say before you post.

To answer the general question: 1) The whole old school Death Metal schtick has been slowly but surely moving in a positive direction. 2) There are a handful of Black Metal bands still putting out decent to good material.

The future will either be putrefaction or a revitalization of vision. The latter means returning to ideas and allowing form to follow. We are in a time where obsession of form rules in its various permutations.


The lines between Black and Death are slowly loosing form, and lots of bands are starting to find ways to re-invigorate new life into old styles without degenerating it or adding in conceptually bankrupt novelty ideas.I personally feel that newer bands like Prosanctus Inferi,Antediluvian,Kerasphorus etc are really starting to go past worship of the old (and still untouched) greats and using this massive surplus of information for the good of making something truly creatively viable.Like always a few greats will rise to the top, and allot of generic bands with little value will fade into obscurity. It will basically just be the same always, just on a larger scale.
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#20
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bestial and war metal go mainstream with synth breakdowns and autotuned clean choruses. Not to mention the occasional djent riff.

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