#1
So i've been in the market for a delay pedal for quite some time now and I've spent many an hour reading reviews, watching demos and test driving stomp boxes at my local store. I've looked at all the usual suspects: DigiDelays, Carbon Copies, Memory Mans, Memory Boys, Memory Toys, etc etc etc. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that the Way Huge Aqua Puss has the absolute best tone for my needs but the 200-300ms is kinda wimpy. It's almost like a long reverb than a true delay. I don't plan on using delay often but I have a slower paced playing style and having slightly longer delay times would be nice, even if it's only like a max of 1 to 2 seconds. I'm also really attracted to the Boss DD-7's reverse solo feature but the tone is a little lifeless.

So in a nut shell, is there a pedal out there that has an Aqua Puss's tone but 1-2 seconds of delay and perhaps a reverse solo feature? I've asked the guys at numerous music stores and most can't give me an answer but I figure the almighty interwebs has the knowledge I seek. Thanks in advance, you guys rock.
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#2
Errrrrr you have mixed a bunch of digital delays in with analog delays, yes it will make a difference. You are asking for a lot of delay in an analoug pedal I dont really know of too many that come with more then 500ms on average of total delay time, I know some old Moog units can do that, the Echoplex tape delay can, but I mean these are vintage units and cost a crap load of money. Best bet will probably be the DD7 if those are the functions your after.
#4
sorry but you'd have to go digital to get that kind of delay time and certainly for a reverse feature. i'd look at the Roland Space Echo as that may come close.
#5
i think the Moog analog delay can do 1s delays. it also costs like $500.

if you wanna go digital there's all kinds of stuff out there that will do 1s and reverse. what's your budget?
#6
I own a DD-7 and have used various boutique (both analog and digital) delays owned by friends.

Advice:

The DD-7 is a very nice, solid, delay pedal... However, you'll never use half the features on these multi-purpose digital delays. The reverse thing is a novelty that has barely any practical use. The Loop function is kind of fun to mess around on your own... but useless as a real quality loop pedal.

Having said that...

The DD-7, and most cheap delays (And most digital delays), get a bad rap for being "lifeless" or "tone-suckers."

Don't buy into this hype. The DD-7 sounds great. Is it the same sound as a real tape-delay? No.

Is it the same quality as a real tape-delay? Yep. The DD-7 does it's job as a delay, and does it well.


Final thought:

Go try out some delays, and look specifically for ones that have the least number of features. The less features, the better. Trust me.
#7
One second is a pretty long delay time. You probably won't use it even with slow playing.

Look into the Maxon AD999 or AD999Pro. Long 900ms delay time and sounds amazing. I tried out MANY delay pedals before i chose the 999Pro.

It has a really unique sound but to me it is amazing. if you can try one out i suggest you give it a go.

Also, don't just buy a delay because it is an analogue delay, imo most digital delays sound much nicer than the cheap analogues ones out there (aka carbon copy, memory boy etc).
#8
Strymon makes a few that should do that and sound great. First you should fill us in on your budget because that makes a huge difference in the help we can offer.
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#9
Don't be my friend Sam, who won't consider a delay if it isn't analog.

I'd check out the TC Electronic Nova Delay, Eventide Time Factor...there are loads of super high quality delays out there that can keep up with even the best sounding analogs, and will be able to do the things you want it to.
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#13
all you need is 400ms. 600ms tops. I can dial in like 23 seconds of delay, doesnt mean i use it , just tends to sound like a mess when you use loads, unless you do swells and that. reverse delay is totally useless, besides in planet caravan covers.

only digital units that will do more than a second. so your stuck with the lifeless lame pedals.

The echohead does reverse, decent pedal, probably as good as the boss really though.
line 6 dl4 gets a pretty good rep.
nova delay does reverse delay.

theres loads of others im sure these nerds will reccomend.
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#14
Hardwire delay. Love mine to bits and it sounds better than the flashback and dd-7 IMO. The flashback won't do the weird freakouts that analogue pedals do in analog mode, but the Hardwire will, and it's got all those features you listed.
#15
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#16
The boss delays are some of the worst delays I've had the displeasure of owning.
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#18
Thanks a lot for the advice guys I'm already looking into things.

Budget wise is don't really care. I'd prefer it to be as affordable as possible (ie under $300), but as long as I can find it easily and the tone is worth it I'll save up.

Also, as far as the digital versus thing goes I don't care one way or another. Do i think digitals are a little sterile? Yes. Have I accepted that analogs simply cant get as much delay as I'd like? Also yes. Do I realize that most digitals have way more hang-time than I need? Again, yes.I already have a loop station so there's really no need for 11 seconds of delay.

Asking the original question I fully expect to get a DD. I'm just curious as to whether or not there are 'D's that sound like 'A's and not like ass.
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#19
how about memory man by EHX? seems like a nice pedal. Anyways I'm a full time delay user and I've never used a delay setting longer than 600ms let's say... yeah may be in some songs, in studio environment but for live I usually have it for around 430 or something. you know not too fast not too long, something that works for everything
#20
The TC Electronic Flashback as someone already suggested would be your best bet. In a delay shoot-out not too long ago it won... and it has up to 6 seconds of delay time and a analog dry through for tone.
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#21
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The DD7 is pretty good. Better than the DL4

I disagree, although the dl4 is nothing special either. TS look at the EQD Disaster Transport, of all the delays I've owned its a good mix of tone and price. Another one that's good in that price range is the Catalinbread Montavillian Echo
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#22
If you are willing to save up then you should definately look in to the maxon pedals i suggested ealier. Otherwise on a budget look in to the line 6 echo park. it is a great sounding pedal and the analogue simulation actually sounds better than most cheap analogue delays out there.
#23
If you're willing to save get something nicer than the Maxons
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#24
Alright, i went to my music store almost right after my last post and they had a number of the pedals you all suggested. I took a look at things like the Eventide Time Factor and there were just to many controls. I messed with the Line 6 DL4 and was mostly overwhelmed by the repetitiveness of most of the delays but I kind of fell in love with the sweep echo. It also left way to big a foot print, i just don't have that kind of real estate on my pedal board. I tried the Hardwire delay and was very impressed with that, great tone and simple features. The modulation setting with cranked repeats was hella fun. They had the Maxon AD9 and I would have gotten to that next had I not shown up later in the day close to closing time.

Do any of the Maxons have a small footprint, simple controls and perhaps a sweep echo instead of a reverse?
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#25
they don't, the Maxons are straight forward analog delay pedals. If you like the DL4, buy an Echo Park. All the same delay models as the DL4 but in a single sized pedal
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#26
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they don't, the Maxons are straight forward analog delay pedals. If you like the DL4, buy an Echo Park. All the same delay models as the DL4 but in a single sized pedal


I don't think it has the delay pedal models. The dl4 has like 14 and the echo park doesn't have that many.

The good think about the echo park is the way the tap tempo is set up.
#27
The next pedal I'm buying is a TC Nova Delay, it has a tap tempo AND a super cool feature where you hold down the tap tempo button and strum a rhythm and the pedal will pick up the tempo from that. I was completely sold on that feature, since you can adjust the tempo using your hand vs your foot. Only delay pedal I've seen that can do that.
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