boratian
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#1
How these guys don't have a proper thread yet baffles me. They're absolutely one of the most talented hardcore/metalcore/punk bands out there.

They've been around over 20 years now and went from ultra political punk/ska to more...cultural critiquing metal/hardcore (I don't want to call them metalcore as their breakdowns are much more punk breakdowns than chuggachugga bree breeee sort of ones
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#3
God any album would do with these boys. If you listen to them chronologically you can hear their sound mature and develop with every release. It depends on what you want though.

How To Clean Everything - Ska/Rock/Pop-Punk
Less Talk, More Rock - Rock/Rock-Pop
Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes - Rock/Hardcore Punk
Potemkin City Limits - Rock/Metal/Hardcore Punk
Supporting Caste - Rock/Metal/Hardcore Punk

I've seen them live twice and they did not disappoint. Certainly an awesome band. Now that I'm a bit older I'm less into their politics (which is very socialist/left wing/anti-capitalist) but Chris, the singer and guitarist is a fantastic musician. His skills as a guitarist are very underrated.
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I've listened to Potemkin City Limits and it was alright. Might give their other albums a listen sometime.
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#6
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uh..punk forum?


I thought so too, but currently they're more hardcore/metal than they are punk. They shed most of their punk sound with Today's Empires...

And to recommend an album I HIGHLY recommend Supporting Caste. The first half of it is pure genius/musical nirvana. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7TmSCRhLG8#t=32s
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#7
Good call.
Propagandhi were my favourite band for years but i havent listened to them for ages! looks like i have some catching up to do, the last album i listened to was todays empires!

I have the urge to listen to less talk, nore rock now! i love that album!
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#9
Quote by boratian
I thought so too, but currently they're more hardcore/metal than they are punk. They shed most of their punk sound with Today's Empires...

And to recommend an album I HIGHLY recommend Supporting Caste. The first half of it is pure genius/musical nirvana. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7TmSCRhLG8#t=32s


they probably have a thread in the punk forum..........just because they have solos and shredz doesn't mean they're metal.
boratian
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#10
Quote by technicolour
they probably have a thread in the punk forum..........just because they have solos and shredz doesn't mean they're metal.


I searched, they don't. To me they're 1/4 metal 1/2 hardcore rock 1/4 punk...they're really a whole mix of stuff. I don't feel like genre arguing and ruining this thread, they're influenced by a lot of stuff, the end. Let's enjoy the music
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#11
In my opinion, not only one of the most important bands out there, but consistently one of the best bands there ever will be.

Potemkin City Limits is genius! Pure genius! The lyrics to Fixed Frequencies and Fedallah's Hearse are probably the best i've ever seen.
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#12
Now that I listen to them, I feel like the vocalist of Evergreen Terrace listened to a lot of Propaghandi as a teen... lol
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#13
Double post, holy hell this band is awesome. I love this style, less riffs more chording.
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#14
Quote by boratian
I searched, they don't. To me they're 1/4 metal 1/2 hardcore rock 1/4 punk...they're really a whole mix of stuff. I don't feel like genre arguing and ruining this thread, they're influenced by a lot of stuff, the end. Let's enjoy the music

None of those things is metal though. It almost sounds like you've never actually listened to the band.

Quote by boratian
(I don't want to call them metalcore as their breakdowns are much more punk breakdowns than chuggachugga bree breeee sort of ones

Also, a few things about this bother me.

1) You didn't close your parenthesis
2) The have hardcore breakdowns; ie, breakdowns consistent throughout hardcore music. WTF is a punk breakdown?
3) Lol @ you not knowing what metalcore is
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They've recorded a split with Sacrifice. And there's this. So while they're no means a metal band, it's not unheard of to think that they're influenced by metal. In fact I know that Chris Hannah listens to a lot of it.
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They've recorded a split with Sacrifice. And there's this. So while they're no means a metal band, it's not unheard of to think that they're influenced by metal. In fact I know that Chris Hannah listens to a lot of it.

Half of Sum 41's first album was 80s metal interludes. Doesn't really prove anything.
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Quote by nashawa
Half of Sum 41's first album was 80s metal interludes. Doesn't really prove anything.
The difference is that Propagandhi carries it on for an entire album and Sum 41's was just a gimmick for fun.

When you see a band that listens to metal and releases splits with metal bands, it's safe to say that they are influenced by metal.
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Quote by element4433
The difference is that Propagandhi carries it on for an entire album and Sum 41's was just a gimmick for fun.

When you see a band that listens to metal and releases splits with metal bands, it's safe to say that they are influenced by metal.

That's fair enough. I concede. However, I hear almost no metal coming through in their music.
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Fenriz listens to electronic, next darkthrone album is going to be dubstep
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Quote by nashawa
That's fair enough. I concede. However, I hear almost no metal coming through in their music.
I can hear it in stuff off Supporting Caste, some off Potemkin City Limits, and that new song I posted has a definite metal influence. But I wouldn't call anything they've done metal at all. But I wouldn't be surprised if they moved even further in that direction on their next album.

And I'd say they fit in better in Punk, but if Jay wants to leave it here I have no problem with that. More discussion would probably take place here.

Also, keep in mind that I am ignorant to pretty much all metal that's not Mastodon, Helmet if you want to call them that, and a few others, so take my opinion with a grain of salt or whatever
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Quote by element4433
They've recorded a split with Sacrifice. And there's this. So while they're no means a metal band, it's not unheard of to think that they're influenced by metal. In fact I know that Chris Hannah listens to a lot of it.



Jesus that's super clean playing, very skilled.
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#22
That clip is so badass, I'm excited for a new album!

So how did you guys hear about Propagandhi? I actually heard of them through Protest the Hero. Never really looked too far into their work, although I did love Supporting Caste and Tertium Non Datur. They've been really growing on me lately though
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#23
I remember seeing their name on the Fat Wreck site like 5-6 years ago, and I thought the name was cool. I listened to a couple of songs from How to Clean Everything, but it was too throwback skate punk for my taste. When I read in this thread that they went more hardcore, I listened again, they're awesome now.
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#24
Such a f*cking awesome band. I've been hooked since around a year and a half ago I discovered them. Favourite album is Potemkin or Supporting Caste.

The new 'recording space' clip sounds fantastic too.
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#25
Double post ahead.

I actually really like 'Failed States' and it seems like that the practice space song is called 'Status Update' if the duration of the video is anything to go by.

Excited.
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#29
Pre ordered the new record. Love the two or three songs I've heard so far. Saving the rest for when it arrives on my doormat.
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#30
Album is pretty great.
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#31
These guys are still around? I used to listen to them quite a bit.
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#33
album of the year. anyone arguing that this doesn't belong in a hardcore forum, a faux hardcore forum at that, kick rocks.
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#34
It was pretty damn good, but I like Supporting Caste better tbh. I will give it album of the year though so far, nothing else has tickled me like this album so far.
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#35
Holy shit, I love this album.

Favourite song so far is probably "Status Update" for that bit at '29 that goes...

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|------------------------------------11-11-11-11-14-14-14-14-------------(13)YOU'RE! A Bullhorn in my FACE, Bullhorn in my EAR!
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Edit: or the title track for "Straight sandwiched betweeeeeee-eeeeeeeeeen"
Each of us a failed state in stark relief
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#37
Love this band - albeit, only when Today's Empire came out. the stuff before that was pretty much straight up Punk and was abit generic IMO. They got alot heavier with Today's Empire and they've really caught their own sound. Great band. I haven't bought the new album, but from the couple of tracks I've heard it sounds pretty awesome.

My mate has seen them live a few times and he's said they don't miss a god damn note. Such a talented band.