#1
I have (what I think is) buzzing on just the low e string 12th fret, I have a crappy fender frontman that I tought was the problem but it might not be. The strings are elixer coated 10s and are about 9 months old but only 2 months or so of play, what you guys think?
#2
try a truss rod adjustment and/or rise the action, happened to me once
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#4
Quote by Ericthegreat
I have (what I think is) buzzing on just the low e string 12th fret, I have a crappy fender frontman that I tought was the problem but it might not be. The strings are elixer coated 10s and are about 9 months old but only 2 months or so of play, what you guys think?



the strings are old.

did you raise that one saddle a little?
is that how you raised the action?
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#5
Yea(also tried raising it alot but it only helped a little and was way to high, and I also did one about a quarter turn on the truss rod(that should make too big of a diff if i did it wrong right >.<?)
Last edited by Ericthegreat at Oct 3, 2011,
#6
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Yea(also tried raising it alot but it only helped a little and was way to high, and I also did one about a quarter turn on the truss rod(that should make too big of a diff if i did it wrong right >.<?)


I normally turn it in 8ths, please tell me you did it slowly.
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#7
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Yea(also tried raising it alot but it only helped a little and was way to high, and I also did one about a quarter turn on the truss rod(that should make too big of a diff if i did it wrong right >.<?)



before you adjust the truss rod again,
just fret the Low E first fret, at the same time,
fret the Low E last fret, where the neck and body meet. ~19th.

with both places held, look at the middle frets.

does the string lay on the fret wire there?
can a thin pick fir in the middle gap there? could 2?

does a credit card fit in the middle gap there?

measure and post back.
Jenneh

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#8
Nothing fits it is pretty much touching but not exactly, also I already turned the truss rod back to where it was earlyer(and yea it was kinda hard to turn but I did it slowly.)
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#9
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Nothing fits it is pretty much touching but not exactly, also I already turned the truss rod back to where it was earlyer(and yea it was kinda hard to turn but I did it slowly.)



if "nothing fits" then it's safe to add some relief.

you'll want to turn the truss rod Counter Clockwise 1/4 turn.
dont force the turn, let it settle in tune,

and post back after, if the measurement doesnt change...
Jenneh

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#10
counter clockwise from the back or the front(looking at pickups ect)?

(I think I will just wait and take it to the guitar shop down the road soon >.>
#11
I adjusted it 1/4 turn twice (waiting a bit in between) and it seems to have maybe raised slightly. I am going to let the guitar sit till tomorrow, and see if it gets better, also it seems to have a lil less buzz but not much.
#12
Ok I can fit a super thin pick under the 8th now, but still buzz... even tryed messing with the action now, weird thing I found out messing with the action was that if the guitar is tuned up from e to about g# most of the fret buzz is gone, could the strings just be too worn and shaking more then they should?
#13
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Ok I can fit a super thin pick under the 8th now, but still buzz... even tryed messing with the action now, weird thing I found out messing with the action was that if the guitar is tuned up from e to about g# most of the fret buzz is gone, could the strings just be too worn and shaking more then they should?



ok now you know how to correctly, adjust the truss rod.

a thin pick is a good amount.

let's talk about other things..

yes old strings contribute to the problem...
if they are older they might be hard to tune, and might pick up some buzz
from being worn.

also, have you intonated that guitar yet?
if the guitar is out of tune at the 12th fret,
while it's in tune at the open string...

then yes the tension might not feel right,
and the chords wont sound exactly right along the board.
so check that also.

and lastly, when you say you adjust the action, (is this a trem bridge?)
you mean that you adjust the 2 pegs on the front face of the saddle
to raise that saddle?

and the bridge is flush with the body of the guitar?
Jenneh

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#14
Yes to all but intonation, I tought it is posed to be in tune with a harmonic at the 12th fret not picked at the 12th? If so then it is sharp, but shortening ect doesn't seem to fix that.
Last edited by Ericthegreat at Oct 6, 2011,
#15
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Yes to all but intonation, I tought it is posed to be in tune with a harmonic at the 12th fret not picked at the 12th? If so then it is sharp, but shortening ect doesn't seem to fix that.


yes you can intonate the strings
by getting the harmonic then fretting
to check that they are the same.

sometimes if the notes still seem off then
you can additionally and easily check
that the guitar is in tune at the 12 by fretting
it there.

old strings aren't going to be perfect

but my thought was that if the bridge was lifted
or if the intonation was way off,
that might help to account for the tension
issue.

but in your case a new set if strings would
probably do the trick.

the gauge should be similar to these, and swapped
one at a time.

or heavier gauge if you down tune a lot.
Jenneh

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#16
Naw I don't downtune often, I guess its time I try out some ernie balls like a been wanting to.