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So...long story short, I'm likely going to have to get a new guitar around Christmas this year. I'm curious as to the common perception of guitars like these? Are they pretentious, childish, gay, over the top, gaudy or any other negative connotation one could infer? I like some of them, especially ones with mustache bridges
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oh I also like it when the inlays on the fretboard are more than just pearl circles.
#4
I don't think they're pretentious. Sure, they're more "over the top"/lavishly decorated, but I don't see an issue with them. I'm not a big fan of the two-tone sunburst on the epiphone dove pictured above though. Get what you want to get
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#5
i actually like fancy acoustics. but electric guitars.... It's very easy to come off as pretentious.
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#6
Pretentious is more of a human quality in my opinion. If you can play it and it makes you happy, how is it pretentious?
#7
If you are in a certian budget as far as money goes you will be happy if your money goes to quality of the instrumet rather than the apearence

but if you are loaded....

go for the most fancy looking best playing shit you can find....

hey i think you are familiar....hm...
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yeah, you guys are right and I know that. I'm kinda a goofy eccentric guy and I think a guitar with some style like this fits my personality. I'm just still in the beginners realm (under a year...probably like 6 months or so) and i wouldn't want it to scream "oh look at my purrty guitar" when I'm still learning everyday...for some reason I just love those damn mustache bridges, theres just that little flare that looks cool to me, though I think there is something to be said for clean and simple.

In regards to the sunburst comment...yeah they have several different finishes of the same model (for both those guitars actually), just grabbed the first one when i typed it in google.
#9
I have an El Degas copy of the Gibson model of the Dove one you posted, plays just as good as the real thing. People loved it as they had never seen a cool design on the pickguard like that before, not to mention I find the inlays pretty slick too!
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Quote by BoyLilikoi
So...long story short, I'm likely going to have to get a new guitar around Christmas this year. I'm curious as to the common perception of guitars like these? Are they pretentious, childish, gay, over the top, gaudy or any other negative connotation one could infer? I like some of them, especially ones with mustache bridges
Gosh, they're all those "qualities" and more. Well, not necessarily the "gay" thing.

Those instruments are copies of country performers guitars. Historically, Country and Western performers are in your face, flamboyant and egotistical. In a South Western cowboy sort of way, they're almost comparable to "glam rockers". A lot of the styling comes from the American south west, which in turn has a heavily Spanish influence. The Spanish pretty much invented the guitar, and many of their instruments carry much artwork. You should check out "Luna Guitars", and you'll see what I'm talking about. So, the tradition is a confluence of cowboys and mariachi musicians. Everything is done big, from to the artist's name in glitter on the guitar strap, to the exotic decoration on the Stetsons. Oh, and lest I forget, the snakeskin boots.

So arguably, these instruments are "traditionally decorated".

One issue, at least for me, is these guitars may produce heightened expectations of the players abilities in the prospective audience. And as in your face as they are , it is incumbent upon the player to be able to live up to these expectations.

Here I picture an old ranch hand walking up to a young man and saying something like this, "thet's a whole lotta geetar ya got thar son, can ya play her any good"?

Having gotten the philosophical portion of this post behind me, I'll comment on the instruments themselves.

1: I don't like the bright cherry sunburst finish, or the dread naught shape. For me, "sunburst" really needs to fade to near black. The bright cherry burst finishes do beckon convincingly at the music store, but I think I'd get tired of owning such an instrument.

2: I do like the black jumbo quite a bit, and I like the cutaway. Also, the all black finish adds a bit of modesty to the extensive ornamentation. The black tends to subdue some of the "blunt force trauma" to the eyeballs which could occur when looking at such a heavily stylized guitar. The curves at the end of the fret board are a nice touch, and add quite a bit of visual interest. Ivory colored body and neck binding really define a black guitar's shape, and the high contrast effect makes the whole thing "pop"!
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on the gibson models, the bottom line is the jumbo sounds great to me. the epi seems pretentious since it's a copy of the gibson but without the tone. i did used to think the jumbo looked sort of cowboyish, but once i played one, i stopped worrying about it.

but then i've bought guitars i thought were ugly 'cause i liked the tone.
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#12
They are only pretentious if you use them as a prop to pretend you are better than you are.

And as others have mentioned, if you enjoy playing them and like the sound, then who cares?
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I generally like instruments that are more understated, but it's taste... If it floats your boat, then it's great for you. I suppose psychologists might make a study of such things....

I notice that more than a few female performers seem to like big (jumbo size) guitars that are also decorated.... I always wondered if it was an attempt to be "as good as the boys"?

But then, I've seen more than a few male musicians with similar things. So who knows?

There was a humorous story I read in Guitar Player years ago. Most know that Gene Autry ordered and received the first heavily decorated "45" model Martin dreadnaught. Tons of mother-of-pearl, abalone, etc. , in addition to his name done in mother-of-pearl along the fretboard.
He was inordinately proud of this fine guitar, and hauled it in to the movie studio to use in a shot where he'd be playing.
The technicians took one look at the thing and said, "too shiny, Gene. It'll reflect all the lights. Here, let's spray it with some of this glare-reducer..."
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Quote by Bikewer
I generally like instruments that are more understated, but it's taste... If it floats your boat, then it's great for you. I suppose psychologists might make a study of such things....

I notice that more than a few female performers seem to like big (jumbo size) guitars that are also decorated.... I always wondered if it was an attempt to be "as good as the boys"?
Yes indeedy, they do..!!!

Here's the ostensibly mild mannered Taylor Swift ,sporting a guitar in such extravagantly bad taste as to make Kanye West "green" with envy!

http://www.celebs101.com/gallery/Taylor_Swift/211246/Taylor_Swift_438.jpg
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Quote by n1ckn1ce
I LOVE the dove. the other is jsut plain ugly in my opinion.

Be nice Nick, no hating.

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Who needs porn when god created PRS Guitars


In an attempt to promote a "deeper" understanding of human sexuality, I'd like to take a "shot" at answering this for you N1ck, and Mr Guitar as well!

I've "come" to this conclusion, porn was created as a solution to the problem of teen aged boys masturbating into the sound hole of their acoustic guitars, while thinking that the guitar was a suitable, "life partner".

Also, the bathroom being a hazardous environment for electrical equipment, porn magazines such as, "Playboy", obviously present less of a clear and present danger to potential loss of life, than does dragging a full amp stack into the bathroom with you, every time you feel like j*****g o**.........
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see i don't want something thats all "blinged" out and stuff, just something with a little pizazz....and preferably a mustache bridge haha!

For example, I think this guitar is absolutely gorgeous, and has some extra flare without being gaudy. However it's insanely out of my price range.

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Quote by BoyLilikoi
sorry for the huge photo.....didn't realize how big it was gonna be

Not a problem! (For me at least). What is the exact price of that gem, BTW?

Actually, if you google "Taylor Swift images", I'm pretty sure I saw her with one of those.

While it's terribly true that they wouldn't sound any where near so good as this Taylor, Ibanez has similar appearing guitars as this in their, "Exotic Wood Series".

With the, "yeah the Taylor's better" required apologies out of the way, the SRT preamps, (with chorus) in the Ibanez' sound very good, the guitars are nicely constructed and finished, and more than likely, most of the audience wouldn't know the difference.
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i can't remember exactly cause its way out of my price range so i didn't look too closely, but I want to say it's 2,500. It's the taylor "fall" series they've released...and it's the most pricey of all their autumn models.
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Quote by BoyLilikoi
i can't remember exactly cause its way out of my price range so i didn't look too closely, but I want to say it's 2,500. It's the taylor "fall" series they've released...and it's the most pricey of all their autumn models.
I went to the Taylor site to have a look at these "Fall Series" models. My browser crashed when I tried to load the price list. Whoops!

Anyway, the model you posted the pic of is flamed koa. Also, there was some mumbling about "build to order". (Or possibly I misread it).

Anyway, it might help you to work through the disappointment of not being able to afford one of those guitars by repeating this mantra, "koa huh, who needs it? That's the same shit they make ukuleles out of".

I've been telling myself that ever since you posted the picture. Does it help? Meh, not so much.......
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