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.....but if I sell one I get rid of part of that rig/sound that I like.

I have 2 rectos, one an original 2 channel the other one a first gen 3 channel (no multi watt feature one). Now I really like them both but having two heads is just too much hassle to have and to own plus I really don't have the space for them where I live realistically.

So really what I'm asking for is suggestions as to an amp that will cover the bases that these two amps do but in one package.

The sounds that I like are the really really thick and heavy gain you get, but I am looking for good cleans as well now after having played more amps it's fair to say Rectos don't have that great a clean sound lol. Good crunch would be nice too but this is not as much of a priority.

Head or combo I'm not too bothered, although if combo I could also sell my 1936v Marshall 2x12. Max budget would be the combined money I get from selling the amps so I would say at least £2000 maximum probably £2500 and as I said I can sell the cab if I get a combo.

So what do you guys think??

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Quote by shredftw
So really what I'm asking for is suggestions as to an amp that will cover the bases that these two amps do but in one package.

The sounds that I like are the really really thick and heavy gain you get, but I am looking for good cleans as well now after having played more amps it's fair to say Rectos don't have that great a clean sound lol. Good crunch would be nice too but this is not as much of a priority.

So what don't you like about the rectos? Just the clean tone? Or is there other things too?

In other words are you looking for an amp with recto style tones? Or something a bit different?

A list of bands you like or tones you want to try to achieve would help a bit. But it seems like you want the retos tonewise but in a smaller package and perhaps better cleans and thats probably going to be a difficult search
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#3
Essentially the clean and low gain are lacking yes

I still would like something that is recto reminiscent for sure, but not a copy or wannabe

Dream Theater, Opeth, Trivium, Paul Gilbert, Periphery, Tesseract, that's a fairly decent overview. I love Joe Bonnamassa too but I realise trying to get that tone is basically impossible so might as well leave it out
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#4
Wide range of tones there buddy...hmmm...

Well, I'd get rid of the 3 channel Recto and the 2x12 like you said. Or even sell both, the cab, then buy a Mesa Mark V. More versatility, still great Mesa tones.

Maybe?
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#6
Mark V whilst it is a great amp really isn't my cup of tea, I like it but channel 3 I just can't click with. I've played one many times and sometimes Ive loved it and on other times I've hated it :/
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#7
Just buy the Axe you *****

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#10
Axe would be cool but I can't try out one :/

ENGL SE I'll have a look at for sure, haven't played one for a few years

Road King would be great but out of budget :/
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#11
Sell both and get a Diezel VH4 or a Diezel Hagen.
You won't regret it.
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Quote by shredftw
Axe would be cool but I can't try out one :/

ENGL SE I'll have a look at for sure, haven't played one for a few years

Road King would be great but out of budget :/


Grab an Axe, flip it for 20% more than what you paid for in case you didnt like it. Or go to the DSP thread and ask the Axe guys there for advice.
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And +1 to the Diezel suggestion.


Thing is, nothing is gonna sound like a recto except another recti
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#13
Quote by shredftw
Axe would be cool but I can't try out one :/

ENGL SE I'll have a look at for sure, haven't played one for a few years

Road King would be great but out of budget :/

If you sell up you'll be able to afford a road king used.
i've seen v1s for 1500
v2s a bit more.
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Sell both and get a Diezel VH4 or a Diezel Hagen.
You won't regret it.


Don't mean to hijack the thread, just asking a question to benefit us both
What would the advantages of either of those models be, I have no experience with Diezel whatsoever and have been considering them. I play Thrash/Melodeath.
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#15
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Just buy the Axe you *****


sounds about right

or else good luck getting Opeth and PG out of the same amp
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#16
Axe FX (as stated)
Diezel (as stated)
Maybe... a Carvin V3 (dunno if it is heavy enough)

Also, isn't there a lower wattage Recto? That way you could have that and a second amp, just two different ones :p
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#17
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Just buy the Axe you *****

Best advice. If he doesnt like it, sell it off at a profit, use extra cash to buy a Diezel.
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Axe FX (as stated)
Diezel (as stated)
Maybe... a Carvin V3 (dunno if it is heavy enough)

Also, isn't there a lower wattage Recto? That way you could have that and a second amp, just two different ones :p



He already has 2 rectos, and youre suggesting he buy a third?
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Good cleans, low and high gain?

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#19
Quote by GS LEAD 5
He already has 2 rectos, and youre suggesting he buy a third?


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It is true that I could resell the AxeFx if I didn't like it, they hold their value pretty well. But I don't think I would by a new one, probably a used Ultra and some sort of pre amp to go with it.

It is the best way to do everything I need to, and plus the advantages it has in terms of recording and portability are fairly endless.
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#21
In a word yes I was, but not like I was suggesting he just buy the same one again. I thought if he still wanted a Recto in his rig but not his current one then he could buy an alternative version of what he likes. It seems his rig is only 'half broken' so why not 'half fix it' :p

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#22
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sounds about right

or else good luck getting Opeth and PG out of the same amp

Didn't they both use the same exact amp at one point? (Laney gh)
#23
Hagen or try and convince dave at Baron Custom Amps to make a UK version of the B120. Nice modern/middle/clean tones. Id say the K88/2 but the middle tones lack a bit.
#25
I'm looking extensively into the AxeFx atm just because I dint know enough about them yet, I only need a power amp for live use correct?? And I can run it directly into any interface to then record into Logic 9?? And the software for working out tone on a computer is Mac friendly yeah??

I'm still interested in a used Roadking, maybe a VH4. what about a Herbert??
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Quote by shredftw
I'm looking extensively into the AxeFx atm just because I dint know enough about them yet, I only need a power amp for live use correct?? And I can run it directly into any interface to then record into Logic 9?? And the software for working out tone on a computer is Mac friendly yeah??

I'm still interested in a used Roadking, maybe a VH4. what about a Herbert??


To record, Axe>Interface>DAW
Ro play
Axe>Poweramp>Guitar cab
OR
FRFR cab
OR
Axe>Monitors
OR
Axe>combo FRFR amp ie Atomic powered wedge or keyboard amp

Or any combination of above, ie, use 1/4 \th inch outs to your poweramp+cab/monitors and XLR outs to PA.
#27
Sweet, sounds very good I must admit.

Possibly now thinking of just selling one of the heads and then getting an AxeFx
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#29
Another vote for Engl. All of them are great, but for the very most tone coverage (read: best clean/low-mid gain without sacrificing high gain) I would go for an SE or Blackmore sig
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Didn't they both use the same exact amp at one point? (Laney gh)


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Quote by shredftw
Sweet, sounds very good I must admit.

Possibly now thinking of just selling one of the heads and then getting an AxeFx


Dont run an Axe into a recto poweramp. It will make every model sound like a Recto thats what Pat fom the DSP thread said when he ran his axe into his single rec' loop. And Ignite said his Mark IV makes all the models his pod HD sound similar to, you guessed it, a mark IV. Mesa's poweramps arent exactly FRFR.
#32
My first recommendation is a Peavey JSX.

Also check out the Laney VH100R, but it's not as versatile as the JSX.
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#33
^I doubt a JSX will sound similar to a Recto. The OP states he wants something that can reach the tones of his two Rectos and have good cleans as well. Unless Bugera has released the Tri Rec, only the Roadster and Roadking match that spec. Unless he goes modelling.
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#36
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^Read OP. He wants recto tone. He wants both 2 ch and 3 ch in one package.

im sure one of the companies i mentioned makes an amp that he would like
#37
What I like about the Axe FX:
A million possibilities in just 1 box, and it's pretty damn close to the real deal.

What I absolutely HATE about it, and that's the reason I don't have one:
There is so much tweaking to do that it annoys me to death. I want to be able to just turn a few knobs and have a great tone EVERY time in like 1 minute of tweaking max. An Axe FX can take hours to get perfectly tweaked.
All i want is to plug in, turn some knobs, and be ready to rock, without having to read a dictionary about how to adjust all million settings.
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#38
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Don't mean to hijack the thread, just asking a question to benefit us both
What would the advantages of either of those models be, I have no experience with Diezel whatsoever and have been considering them. I play Thrash/Melodeath.

They are both fully MIDI controllable, and each channel has it's own FX loop, and there is a general FX loop on top of that. Possibilities are just endless with a few pedals or decent FX processor. The difference between the 2 amps is mostly the voicing. The Hagen is a little bit more modern sounding, the VH4 still is the tightest amp I've ever heard.
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#39
Quote by GS LEAD 5
^I doubt a JSX will sound similar to a Recto. The OP states he wants something that can reach the tones of his two Rectos and have good cleans as well. Unless Bugera has released the Tri Rec, only the Roadster and Roadking match that spec. Unless he goes modelling.


I know, but the JSX has at least slightly similar tonal characteristics.

The thing is, is that NO amp will sound like a Recto, except for a Recto. The only possible way to get Recto tone, as well as good cleans and crunch is to get a Road King II. TS said that was out of budget, so something has to give somewhere. And personally, if I was looking for recto-ish tone, I'd take a JSX over a lot of the other amps being recommended.
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