#1
Hey guys!

Writing my first actual acoustic song, and well, I'm not to good with chords. Literally, I know about 10 or 11.

Anywho, I'm writing a song in A Minor (really sad feel to it) and my tonal center is based around an Am11 chord. Now, not being good with chords, I don't know where to go for the next fingerpicking thing. IT starts at an Am11 chord like I said, but what chords can I use to keep the sad feel going?


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#2
I would research diatonic chords a bit, as well as chord progressions. In A minor you could play the chords based around the scale (ABCDEF(or F#)GA). When writing in a minor key, chords can be found starting on the root (minor), the 2nd (diminished or minor), the b3rd (major or augmented), the 4th (minor or major), the 5th (minor or major), the b6th (major), the 6th (diminished), the b7th (major), and the 7th(diminished) of the key you're in.

Example: Diatonic Triads in the key of A Minor
ACE = A Minor
BDF = B Minor
CEG = C Major
DFA = D Minor
#3
Play Am11 5-3-5-5-3-3 then go to a Gsus just by moving your second finger over a string. To get 3-5-5-5-3-3. Then alternate between that Gsus to a Gmaj.
Thats basically all I can think of at the moment. I will reply to this thread later if something else comes to mind.
#5
Also, you can go down to a weird F chord that I just randomly made up that sounds pretty good lol. You gotta use your thumb though for the E string. 1-0-3-0-1-1 then a possible alternation between the F and E on the high e.
#6
That thumb part is tripping me up. THUMBS ARENT MEANT FOR FRETTING MAN.


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#8
Try changing to a different chord. If you like it keep it. If not try a different chord. Repeat this process several times. If you only know 10 chords it won't take long.
#9
You have one chord. Now add another one. And then another one after that. Do not stop until you have reached the sky.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#10
Learn some music theory, particularly how to build diatonic chords from the major/minor scales. When you fully understand that you will have a decent idea of what fits with what and you can go about building your own chord progressions easily. Of course you could ask someone to just finish this progression for you, but it won't really help your songswriting in the future.

Here is a good website to start looking at...
http://www.musictheory.net/lessons
#11
TS can you play many full songs off the top of your head?
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#12
Quote by Deathro
Also, you can go down to a weird F chord that I just randomly made up that sounds pretty good lol. You gotta use your thumb though for the E string. 1-0-3-0-1-1 then a possible alternation between the F and E on the high e.


I find this much easier to position without using the thumb.
#13
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I find this much easier to position without using the thumb.



It was easier for my with my thumb. The transition was smooth and clean, but we all have different hands and finger sizes, fret board widths, and sting differentials. I was playing it on an acoustic. so that may have lead to my thumb being used. Whatever way works for you is the one you should stick with
#14
Quote by Scowmoo
Hey guys!

Writing my first actual acoustic song, and well, I'm not to good with chords. Literally, I know about 10 or 11.

Anywho, I'm writing a song in A Minor (really sad feel to it) and my tonal center is based around an Am11 chord. Now, not being good with chords, I don't know where to go for the next fingerpicking thing. IT starts at an Am11 chord like I said, but what chords can I use to keep the sad feel going?

To answer your question, try to find different chords yourself.
Your key center is based around Am not Am11.
You should learn the A minor scale and how to built triads from it and add-ons.
If you have that knowledge that's a pretty good start.
#15
Quote by Deathro
It was easier for my with my thumb. The transition was smooth and clean, but we all have different hands and finger sizes, fret board widths, and sting differentials. I was playing it on an acoustic. so that may have lead to my thumb being used. Whatever way works for you is the one you should stick with



I was just throwing it out there.

Just make sure you aren't hurting your hand when using your thumb to finger bass notes, it's not any fun.
#16
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Learn some music theory, particularly how to build diatonic chords from the major/minor scales. When you fully understand that you will have a decent idea of what fits with what and you can go about building your own chord progressions easily. Of course you could ask someone to just finish this progression for you, but it won't really help your songswriting in the future.

Here is a good website to start looking at...
http://www.musictheory.net/lessons

Thanks! I already know quite a bit of music theory though x)

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TS can you play many full songs off the top of your head?

Yep. I also write alot of my own stuff. Why do you ask?


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#17
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Yep. I also write alot of my own stuff. Why do you ask?


I find it hard to accept from someone that is "not good with chords" that they write a whole heap of songs and can play a whole heap also.

But if that's the case:

Surely you've written a song with chords then....just do what you usually do. If not, imitate the songs with chords that you cover from other people.
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Quote by Scowmoo
Hey guys!

Writing my first actual acoustic song, and well, I'm not to good with chords. Literally, I know about 10 or 11.

Anywho, I'm writing a song in A Minor (really sad feel to it) and my tonal center is based around an Am11 chord. Now, not being good with chords, I don't know where to go for the next fingerpicking thing. IT starts at an Am11 chord like I said, but what chords can I use to keep the sad feel going?



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#19
Quote by AlanHB
I find it hard to accept from someone that is "not good with chords" that they write a whole heap of songs and can play a whole heap also.

But if that's the case:

Surely you've written a song with chords then....just do what you usually do. If not, imitate the songs with chords that you cover from other people.


You don't necessarily need to know chords to write music man, it's not like I write a bunch of chordal stuff. I'm in a melodic death band lol.

But thanks!


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You don't necessarily need to know chords to write music man, it's not like I write a bunch of chordal stuff. I'm in a melodic death band lol.

But thanks!


They don't use chords in melodic death metal?
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#21
As an alternative you could just mute that F note on the low E. I actually like to keep the high E open too.
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#22
Quote by Scowmoo
Hey guys!

Writing my first actual acoustic song, and well, I'm not to good with chords. Literally, I know about 10 or 11.

Anywho, I'm writing a song in A Minor (really sad feel to it) and my tonal center is based around an Am11 chord. Now, not being good with chords, I don't know where to go for the next fingerpicking thing. IT starts at an Am11 chord like I said, but what chords can I use to keep the sad feel going?

Throw some Pitch Axis in there mate. Amaj7.