#1
Hi guys.

I'm looking into getting a metal tube amp for bedroom practice and sometimes jamming.

Basically I play metal sounds like pantera , metallica etc... but i m interesting about punk, stoner,metal,death sounds .

i have seen many videos and i'm middle of this amps:
ORANGE DARK TERROR
KRANK REV JR PRO


also i liked carvin v3m but is a bit expensive in europe and HUGHES&KETTNER TUBEMEISTER but i dont think makes so metalish sounds.
#2
Buy a big metal amp and turn it down.

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#3
yeah i'd have to go with tom's suggestion. While I'm not saying those smaller amps can't sound good, you're very much limiting your options...
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#4
Not going to find many (or any) high gain tube amps that are going to sound their best at home volume levels. Even the low wattage ones. Definitely not saying they won't sound good, I absolutely love my 6505 but I also know it's not at its best at under 1 on lead channel post So if you're going to be hamstrung with volume levels, might as well buy what's going to sound best for how you're going to use it.

Have you thought about one of the peavey tube vypyrs?
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#5
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Have you thought about one of the peavey tube vypyrs?


+1. If you need extremely quiet bedroom volumes, with full on metal tonality, this is the best option.

Typically, low gain amps aren't going to be very high gain. High gain requires a lot of headroom to sound the way it does.
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#7
Can you buy a mini recto as of yet? And the TS said that the carvin v3m is too pricy, the mini recto will be 50% more than it!
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Not going to find many (or any) high gain tube amps that are going to sound their best at home volume levels. Even the low wattage ones. Definitely not saying they won't sound good, I absolutely love my 6505 but I also know it's not at its best at under 1 on lead channel post So if you're going to be hamstrung with volume levels, might as well buy what's going to sound best for how you're going to use it.


+1

that's not to say there aren't low wattage higher gain amps, but you can sorta count them on the fingers of one hand... certainly two hands. and if you're playing at bedroom volume, there's no guarantee that they'll sound much better than the higher wattage high gainers... both a 20 watter and a 100 watter are going to be barely ticking over at tv volume.
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Typically, low gain amps aren't going to be very high gain.


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#12
Low wattage tube amp made for metal ?

And nobody advised him to take the (newer) Blackstar HT-5...

Oh well.
#13
If quiet high gain playing is needed I'd just go for a low watt amp that takes pedals well and stick some kind of high gain dirt box in front of it.
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Quote by Tom 1.0
Buy a big metal amp and turn it down.
This really.

For the price of that Rev Jr. Pro you can get a used Peavey 5150, XXX, or Ultra, a new Jet City 50h, a Carvin V3 (no "M"), or a Bugera, and pair with and decent 2x12.

Fuck wattage. Really, who cares if you aren't using the amp to its "full potential". Get whatever amp sounds best to your ears at the volume you usually play at, whether it be 20 or 120 watts.
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If quiet high gain playing is needed I'd just go for a low watt amp that takes pedals well and stick some kind of high gain dirt box in front of it.


that's the cheap way to do it, and while it's worth considering if you really can't afford any more (the valve junior works pretty well for that), you really won't get the same results as you will with a high wattage high gain amp turned down, either.

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Fuck wattage. Really, who cares if you aren't using the amp to its "full potential". Get whatever amp sounds best to your ears at the volume you usually play at, whether it be 20 or 120 watts.


+ infinity

I've been saying this for ages.

What's important is getting the gear which works best for your situation, not achieving some kind of mythical "justification" status where you're using the amp to its "full potential".

I mean, an amp which is perfect for the tones you want and need used at 20% of its potential probably will sound better for you than an amp which is terrible for the tones you want but which you can run at 100% of its full potential.

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Fuck wattage. Really, who cares if you aren't using the amp to its "full potential". Get whatever amp sounds best to your ears at the volume you usually play at, whether it be 20 or 120 watts.



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+1
I guess he was trying to say "low wattage amps" no "low gain amps" though xD. Duh!
#19
just to note, using 150w crate at home in my 20x12 room and sounds fantastic at low volumes.

this aint the 50's. u dont have to crank the shit out of amps to get distortion anymore
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#20
Yeah, I had a 150W triple rectifier... It was loud as all hell. However, if you carefully adjusted the master volume knob you could tame the beast, and get perfectly acceptable tone at bedroomish volumes.
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oh wow. derp. *low wattage

Also, + infinity to the **** wattage sentiment. I rock a 120W half stack in my apartment.

Volume knobs aren't there just to look pretty.
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#22
Jet City JCA20H.

Also, the days of cranking an amp to get the best sound are long, long gone.
You dont crank for metal. Power tube distortion is saggy, loose, and muddy.
The opposite of what you want for metal.
Metal amps use preamp distortion so they sound the same no matter the volume.
That being said, you're not pushing as much air and not driving the speaker as hard, so it sounds weaker and thinner.
#23
tnx everyone for the advices!
finally i order orange dark terror + ppc112
#24
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^ best tones i've ever got in my bedroom. Cant gig with it though.

tnx everyone for the advices!
finally i order orange dark terror + ppc112

Congrats! that's gonna sound great, although you will most likely need an overdrive pedal. You could even use it for gigging.
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#25
the jet city 20 watters can do metal with a boost.
I'd personally maybe wait for the 2 channel versions which has an fx loop and second channel

I have the 1 channel version its very good sounding IMO but i only got it cause i got a really good cheap price off ebay in the uk new from source clearing there warehouse
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Thats it boosted.

I do agree with the others though. My 120 watt ultra plus sounds just as good at bedroom volumes. It even has a half power switch and even at lower volumes i prefer it at full power. More low end!
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