#1
Hey boys and girls, I don't always ask questions on this board, but when I do... I never set a budget (seeing as I'm intending to save)

So here's the deal, I'm in the long-term market for three pedals to add to my board. A hot Marshally overdrive pedal, a smooth fuzz that can really dish it out, and a solid, versatile wah.

I am not out to emulate any particular guitarist's tone, but I play all sorts of blues and blues-rock (I worship Clapton). Maybe a little bit of classic rock a la AC/DC, ZZ Top, etc. Versatility is a big factor for me. I want each pedal to be able to do a couple different tones well. Unless it does one tone nigh perfectly.

I've been gone from the forums for a while, and although I am considered a veteran around these parts, I have very little experience with stompboxes and wahs, so I'm enlisting your help in pointing me out to the hot new stomps that have hit the market in my absence.

Like I said, no real budget, but if they rival the price of Klons, you can probably count it out. I aint paying no 600 bucks for no pedal.

Gear is in the signature.

Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
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#2
MI Audio Crunchbox or Wampler Plextortion for the Marshall, for a smooth Fuzz you probably want a Muff or some variant of it, I'm partial to the Blackout Effectors Musket, or you could ask Tim (http://www.toyroomguitareffects.com/), one of the Aussies to build you one. For the Wah, I find it hard to suggest anything other than the RMC-3.
#4
Quote by greeny23
Klon.


Nope. Besides, my Tube Factor already does the transparent overdrive thing perfectly.

^^Thanks, I'll look into those. I've heard good things about all of those, except the Musket, which I haven't really heard about.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
Last edited by darkarbiter7 at Oct 12, 2011,
#6
For the wah perhaps a Morley PW?

Overdrive - Wampler SLOstortion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hovjg8DwqeA&feature=relmfu

Fuzz - Skinpimp Buzzaround http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paJAQ144PhE&feature=feedu
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#7
NakedInTheRain: What kind of price point does that Minstrel carry? What kind of tones can it achieve? And about the two klons, I have this to say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

Curt: The PW is one wah I have tried, and I wasn't a fan. And I always hear a lot of great things about wampler, so they are definitely on my radar. The Skinpimp I haven't heard of, but it does have a sweet name. Definitely gonna look into that.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#8
I've got a Buzzaround coming Friday. I'll let you know how I like it.

For dirt, grab a Himmelstrutz Fetto (Standard, Custom, C-Luxe, Nord, whichever). For fuzz, I'd probably go for a Muff if you want something that can be smooth and balls to the wall. Catalinbread Manx Loaghtan is a great one. For a wah, grab a Teese. RMC3 or 4 if you want something simpler.
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Fender CS Mary Kaye

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#9
Is this for use with your GA35? That's such a classic little amp, you don't see many of those. Hope you got it sorted. I think that's the only transformer based phase inverter I've ever seen in a guitar amp. I'd love to own that amp.
I'd go for a clean boost with just a bit of clipping available. Something Timmy-like would be good. Ask Ben to build you something. You want something to bring out the best of the amp itself. If I owned it I'd be going through my NOS 12AX7 collection until I found the perfect tubes for it, then boost the suckas.
A 10 band MXR EQ would be mandatory for the front of it though. I'd be tempted to stick a 32 band rack EQ in front of it. That should be your first purchase without a doubt.
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#10
Quote by Cathbard
Is this for use with your GA35? That's such a classic little amp, you don't see many of those. Hope you got it sorted. I think that's the only transformer based phase inverter I've ever seen in a guitar amp. I'd love to own that amp.
I'd go for a clean boost with just a bit of clipping available. Something Timmy-like would be good. Ask Ben to build you something. You want something to bring out the best of the amp itself. If I owned it I'd be going through my NOS 12AX7 collection until I found the perfect tubes for it, then boost the suckas.
A 10 band MXR EQ would be mandatory for the front of it though. I'd be tempted to stick a 32 band rack EQ in front of it. That should be your first purchase without a doubt.


Chances are, yes I would be using it with the GA35. It has a real good base tone to run pedals through. My CBB takes pedals well too, but she colors things a lot. And yeah, it is a nice amp. The controls are a bit funky, but she really sings. I do want to get an EQ pedal one of these days. That would be real nice to have.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#11
marshall overdrive, the ocd
marshall distortion, box of rock, plextortion, jcm drive

pharaoh fuzz for versatile muff type
london fuzz for smoother
lstr, leviathan for aggressive fuzz
Mr. Zachary Vex on the fuzz probe: "Congratulations. You must be insane. Even I don't get how to use this pedal".
#12
Wes, the stuff I've played/owned that I would recommend would be this

MIAudio Crunchbox - marshall grit

EHX Russian Big Muff - fuzz

forsaknazrael Wah - have him make you one, i like mine outside of the taper being kind of narrow
#13
I do suppose getting one made by one of the guys on here would stimulate the UG economy. Hmmm...
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#14
Quote by darkarbiter7
NakedInTheRain: What kind of price point does that Minstrel carry? What kind of tones can it achieve?

$325 with a three month wait. tone-wise, heaps and heaps. check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA0s96tt2Ts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D63C_OCvE-Y
Quote by darkarbiter7
And about the two klons, I have this to say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

well i have this to say back...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huF6nmrgvUc
#15
Quote by NakedInTheRain
$325 with a three month wait. tone-wise, heaps and heaps. check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA0s96tt2Ts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D63C_OCvE-Y

well i have this to say back...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huF6nmrgvUc


Mmm... sexy. And I would definitely be willing to pay that for an OD of that caliber. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Azz-6oT08c


My response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqDaMSk00wA
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#17
the only expensive pedals i have bought that have lived up to the hype have been my mutron bi-phase, hog, and MF-102 ring modulator. i regret buying some of the more overpriced 'simple' pedals (fuzz, OD, wah etc), especially when you can find very skilled individuals on this very forum that offer pedal making services (they usually cost less and have better parts than most mass manufacturers use).

in TS's position, i'd nab a good wah. i own a GCB-95, a thomas organ crybaby (with the red square inductor) and a fulltone clyde deluxe. my buddy has a couple RMC wahs (picture wah, wizard wah). i like the old school wah sound, and my fav of the bunch is RMC cuz their picture wah delivers. damn thing is very responsive but with a sensible taper, sounds good thru the whole travel, and just plain feels better than any other wah i have played.
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Last edited by gumbilicious at Oct 12, 2011,
#18
okko diablo a high level od
Mr. Zachary Vex on the fuzz probe: "Congratulations. You must be insane. Even I don't get how to use this pedal".
#19
You sons of bitches. I was content not knowing the mistrel existed. it sounds like just the thing to go with my spitfire.

to help TS. look into the catalinbread dirty little secret for the marshall tone.
i think i heard a wren and cuff clone of a big muff which sounded pretty nice in the demo. I think it was a rams head clone. not sure of its name though.
#21
I don't know how anything can bump that Minstrel down off it's pedestal right now. Damn...
Def getting one of those once I get some extra cash.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#23
How is exactly like 2 minstrels? Explain yourself!
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#24
Quote by AcousticMirror
get a jouster.

it's like 2 ministrels.


http://www.kingsleyamplifiers.com/pedals/juggler/

or the juggler.


I went straight to the website and had a look at those. looks like i'm going to be poor after next pay, paradigm shift and minstrel here i come.
#25
Quote by darkarbiter7
How is exactly like 2 minstrels? Explain yourself!


It's two channels. Made by the same guy.
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#26
hmm paying extra... but for another channel. Hmmmmmm. Awful tempting.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#27
My personal mod for the DS-1 does that hot rodded Marshall tone rather well I think, it was pretty cheap to do. The LiquidFire Drive from Fuzz Central will cover your fuzz pretty well, I just built one(so happy) and I actually like it alot, if I would of used the correct taper pot, the gain would be more workable, but that's besides the point.

I'd just take a CryBaby GCB-95 Wah and mod the hell out of it, makes it into a decent pedal for $15.


You can tell I like to build and mod stuff.....it's a habit. >_>
#28
Quote by darkarbiter7
How is exactly like 2 minstrels? Explain yourself!


NO
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#29
you should talk to bostonrocks.

i heard he makes some epic pedals and is super fast with deliveries.

he'll probably make anything you want.
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#30
Quote by gregs1020
you should talk to bostonrocks.

i heard he makes some epic pedals and is super fast with deliveries.

he'll probably make anything you want.


Dude I know. A 2 year-waiting list? That's a big wait, but he probably does a lot of stuff to make the pedals awesome. He probably assembles it at a specific altitude in the perfect humidity at a certain time of year. And uses solder blessed by the Pope. do you know how hard it is to get stuff blessed by the Pope? Very.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#31
Fairfield Circuitry Four Eyes Fuzz
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#32
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Fairfield Circuitry Four Eyes Fuzz


I dig the stripped down look of it. Very indie-looking.
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Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#33
I feel the need to introduce you guys to the Lovepedal Amp 11. I picked it out of about 10 other overdrives AND distortions, this thing can handle literally every genre you try it with. It'll be more than enough for the Marshall bite you want, but clean enough for Clapton. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmoFgQ46qz0
#34
the dirty little secret's meant to be pretty good for the marshally stuff. Haven't tried it, but it uses cascading mosfets rather than the usual diode/LED clipping circuit to ground.

just be careful you aren't paying more money for something that's almost the same as something cheaper- some boutique pedals do use unique designs and may be worth the extra, but an awful lot are only lightly modded mass-produced pedals using better (?) parts...
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#36
Quote by third-eye
I feel the need to introduce you guys to the Lovepedal Amp 11. I picked it out of about 10 other overdrives AND distortions, this thing can handle literally every genre you try it with. It'll be more than enough for the Marshall bite you want, but clean enough for Clapton. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmoFgQ46qz0


**** Lovepedal.
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Fryette Ultra Lead
Peavey 6505
THD Flexi 50

Gibson R0 Prototype
EBMM JP13 Rosewood
Fender CS Mary Kaye

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#37
Quote by third-eye
I feel the need to introduce you guys to the Lovepedal Amp 11. I picked it out of about 10 other overdrives AND distortions, this thing can handle literally every genre you try it with. It'll be more than enough for the Marshall bite you want, but clean enough for Clapton. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmoFgQ46qz0


Did you pick it over 10 other Lovepedal pedals?
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