#1
Here's the situation, I can get either a 5 string peavey grind bxp or a 6 string version, both for around $350. which one should i get? I'd like to have a 6 string but i don'tknow if it would be a little over-crowded for slapping and playing in general. let me know, pros and cons of them if you're able.
#2
Meh, it can be a bit crowded for slap/pop at first, but you get used to it. The extra high string is really useful for chording and other cool things.

The Good:

* More range
* More prestige :P

The Bad:

* Wider neck

Its mostly personal preference. Youll get used to the wider neck. Might take a few days, other than that, Id recommend the 6.
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#3
Man, I can't even slap a 5 My thumb always catches the B when I try and slap the E.

A six can be slapped, but it'd take a lot of getting used to. They'd be more suited to finger-style, i'd imagine. But yeah, chords and solos are awesome on a 6. Downside is that if you're used to a four string the neck will feel like playing guitar on an ironing board. If you wanna try something new, get the 6. If you just want another bass to play, get the 5.
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Man, I can't even slap a 5 My thumb always catches the B when I try and slap the E.

A six can be slapped, but it'd take a lot of getting used to. They'd be more suited to finger-style, i'd imagine. But yeah, chords and solos are awesome on a 6. Downside is that if you're used to a four string the neck will feel like playing guitar on an ironing board. If you wanna try something new, get the 6. If you just want another bass to play, get the 5.

well, i played the five string at the store and i didn't have any trouble at all slapping on it. I don't know if I'd want to gamble on the six string because my hands aren't all that big. But It might be even better than the five whichI know I already love
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If you wanna try something new, get the 6. If you just want another bass to play, get the 5.


This

a 6 might have more range, but if you're planning on a non stop slappin' N soloin' you might not find as many bands who want you. A 5 string gives you a heavier option but retains a smaller profile, so you can handle it in a more traditional bass style. Of course you can play a 6 string like a bass but it's sheer size and layout make it more for virtuoso solo style to me, in a band the extra string I think bleeds into the guitars zone especially in metal where guitar and bass fight for sonic territory, in the end both sides lose some and it ends up where you hear only the 4-5 strings anyway (IMO)
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a 6 might have more range, but if you're planning on a non stop slappin' N soloin' you might not find as many bands who want you. A 5 string gives you a heavier option but retains a smaller profile, so you can handle it in a more traditional bass style. Of course you can play a 6 string like a bass but it's sheer size and layout make it more for virtuoso solo style to me, in a band the extra string I think bleeds into the guitars zone especially in metal where guitar and bass fight for sonic territory, in the end both sides lose some and it ends up where you hear only the 4-5 strings anyway (IMO)


thank you very much, this brings up very good points. I think I'll stick to the five. I play four right now so it's kind of a big step for me after 4 years of picking on a four string.
#8
It's up to you, play both first. I've never owned anything but 4's P bass and J bass and a little mustang. I've played 5's a bit but even playing doom metal I've never had a draw to it, but I see it's functionality and respect it. With 6 stringers it always seems to be used in a genre with "solo" or "fusion" or "melodic" followed by the genre's name. I'm really not a fan of those styles wooten, jaco etc, but some people love them and the virtuoso flair to music. Recently I was waiting for a table at a place they had an hour wait, so I went across the street and there was an open air bar with a blues-country-proto rock-covers band (think Johnny B. Goode) anyways there was guitar, drums, keys (shrug), sax (puke) and the bass player played a 6 stringer. They were jamming on the oldies pretty hard and going into some newer and original bits, and the bassist through the entire set never solo'ed, never slapped and in all honesty played well, but he was playing a small stage (no low B support) and a style of music that just didn't warrant the fret board real estate, and in the end it just looked uncomfortable as he rarely strayed from his main 4 strings.

Again you have an idea of what you want and I think it's a good idea from a practical standpoint to move up one string at a time.
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well, i played the five string at the store and i didn't have any trouble at all slapping on it. I don't know if I'd want to gamble on the six string because my hands aren't all that big. But It might be even better than the five whichI know I already love


You don't need big hands. It's all in the technique. A six string neck isn't that much wider generally, anyways.
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You don't need big hands. It's all in the technique. A six string neck isn't that much wider generally, anyways.


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#12
Personally I feel that if you are curious about a 6 string or are unsure which you'd prefer, 6-string is the way to go. If you end up realising you aren't really gonna put that high C to use, you still have the rest of the range anyway! And at the same time, having the extra string will tighten up your technique due to closer string spacing and (possibly, although this will be subtle I think) better muting. It just opens up possibilities as well. I enjoy a 6 string for slap since you can get a really snappy tone out of the C string - those same notes played higher up on the G don't really retain the same brightness. Then you've got increased flexibility for chord voicings.

Essentially, a 6-string gives you all of those possibilities that you can at least find out for yourself if you're going to use or not, and yet you are at no loss if you don't use them. A 5 string means you have what you have, and can't explore those possibilities.
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Personally I feel that if you are curious about a 6 string or are unsure which you'd prefer, 6-string is the way to go. If you end up realising you aren't really gonna put that high C to use, you still have the rest of the range anyway! And at the same time, having the extra string will tighten up your technique due to closer string spacing and (possibly, although this will be subtle I think) better muting. It just opens up possibilities as well. I enjoy a 6 string for slap since you can get a really snappy tone out of the C string - those same notes played higher up on the G don't really retain the same brightness. Then you've got increased flexibility for chord voicings.

Essentially, a 6-string gives you all of those possibilities that you can at least find out for yourself if you're going to use or not, and yet you are at no loss if you don't use them. A 5 string means you have what you have, and can't explore those possibilities.


While that's true it goes to the same thing I said earlier it can wind up encroaching on the guitars especially in downtuned styles. And for the sake of argument, if having it's good "just cause it's got more flexibility" why not get a 7 or 8 or 20 string bass? The TS needs to just play both, get a feel for them, and think hard if the extra string is justified or not, nuff said.
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While that's true it goes to the same thing I said earlier it can wind up encroaching on the guitars especially in downtuned styles. And for the sake of argument, if having it's good "just cause it's got more flexibility" why not get a 7 or 8 or 20 string bass? The TS needs to just play both, get a feel for them, and think hard if the extra string is justified or not, nuff said.


Avoiding the encroachment of territory isn't a matter of what instrument you have, it's just a matter of having good musicianship. There's no reason that instruments can't stray into each others' range anyway - classical music (one extreme of many examples) is full of it. It's just a matter of good musicianship, knowing when it's warranted and when it's not. Honestly, if tones are chosen carefully to complement and not choke one another, it's not even an issue.

As for the further extended range argument, that slightly misses the part where I said that if he is curious, he should go for it. Also baring in mind that a 6 string bass is not too uncommon these days - it's not an entirely specialist range or anything (to some degree, but not entirely). Seven string is definitely going over into a specialist territory when it comes to bass guitar. He's talking about two instruments of pretty similar prices. So if he's first of all not curious about 7 string, and second of all not wanting to spend the extra money, then there is no reason to go for it and therefore I don't think that argument is really relevant.
#15
Five. Six strings are just for egotistical people that want to prove how much better they are. Six string basses are kind of just a novelty. Besides, all the best bands use five strings.
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Gotta love the contrast between the intelligent argument of askrere, and... that. >_>
#17
If it hasn't been said already, remember that 6 strings are really ****ing heavy.
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Five. Six strings are just for egotistical people that want to prove how much better they are. Six string basses are kind of just a novelty. Besides, all the best bands use five strings.


Opinion, not fact dude.

Personally I would go for the 6 String for the versatility. I've always thought it better to have something and not need it, than to need something and not have it.
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Five. Six strings are just for egotistical people that want to prove how much better they are. Six string basses are kind of just a novelty. Besides, all the best bands use five strings.


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Five. Six strings are just for egotistical people that want to prove how much better they are. Six string basses are kind of just a novelty. Besides, all the best bands use five strings.

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On topic: TS you need to go try some. A sixer isn't any more difficult then a fiver necessarily, the string spacing will just a bit tighter and the neck a tad wider (in most cases). If you find a six string that's comfortable and sounds good to you then go for it, you don't always need to use the extra range but it sure is handy, and the improved economy of motion is great.

On the flip side, if you find a five string more comfortable and don't think you'll miss the extra string that's fine too. The fiver will (most likely) be cheaper and lighter.
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Five. Six strings are just for egotistical people that want to prove how much better they are. Six string basses are kind of just a novelty. Besides, all the best bands use five strings.


Lack of knowledge always seems to lead to horrid conclusions such as this one.

To add to the discussion, I personally began with a 4 string, and made the progression to a 5 and later to a 6, which is now my primary bass. The reason for going completely to a 6 was due to the nature of the music and band I was playing in. Since the band I was in only consisted of myself and 2 other members, I utilized a 6 string bass to effectively replace a second guitarist while still maintaining my role as the low-end. Plus, I personally feel like a 6 string offers me the most potential to play interesting chords and notes with the best economy of movement.

Now that I am in a new, much different genre of music with another band, I've found that I don't really make much use of the extended range, even though I still play the 6 string as a primary. I'm thinking that I just might switch to the 5 string for this band, because the slightly narrower neck does help when attempting 4 and 5 fret stretches while moving around on stage.

TL;DR : I would suggest that you should try and find a shop that carries 5 and 6 string basses, and give each a shot just to get the general "feel" for each.

My personal suggestion for you would be to pick up the 6 string, but then again, you could find that you don't use the 6th string at all. Also, 6 string bass strings tend to be slightly more expensive than 5 string bass strings and could be harder to find, depending if you buy locally or which stores are local to you. Of course, everything can be found online, as well.

Hope this helps a little.
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Five. Six strings are just for egotistical people that want to prove how much better they are. Six string basses are kind of just a novelty. Besides, all the best bands use five strings.


Oh sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit. There's a lot more bands than you think that use 6 strings, one of the great bassists around is Les Claypool, and he does just fine with a 6.

Also, slapping isnt hard to do on the 6 string - it just takes a finer technique and more accuracy with your slap. Youll get used to it - trust me.

6 string players usually tend to be more talented than your average joe bassist, and can implement the extra range effectively. If you are just a simple bassist and don't do anything real technical, then there's no point to having a 6 string.
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6 string players usually tend to be more talented than your average joe bassist, and can implement the extra range effectively. If you are just a simple bassist and don't do anything real technical, then there's no point to having a 6 string.


Idk this kind of irks me... I'll leave it at that

I think the guy has enough info to stop these arguments.
#25
After being a 6-string player for a couple of years, I gotta say I really want to go back to a 5'er. My 6'er is a great instrument, but I feel like I don't utilize it at all. I've also considered going to a 4-string tuned to BEAD for the same reasons, but I think I'll stick to 5'ers.
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Reading the flow of the discussion, I think he was referring to garith, who you and so many people have quoted. So nope, not you.


He was quoting me when he said "Idk this kind of irks me" and then you quoted that and said he had a tendency to troll, so it kinda sounded like you were talking to me. I was gonna say, I dont have a history of trolling. Although I do have a tendency to be an asshole
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He was quoting me when he said "Idk this kind of irks me" and then you quoted that and said he had a tendency to troll, so it kinda sounded like you were talking to me. I was gonna say, I dont have a history of trolling. Although I do have a tendency to be an asshole


It was the second half of his post I was referring to.
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The band with the asian guy? Haha, yea, no offense or anything, but dream theatre's kind of a joke. Pseudo-prog metal bands like dream theatre take away from the amazing, prog gods like btbam. That crazy chinese guy in dream theatre can barely even play. Leave bass playing to the truly brilliant players, like cliff burton.

Trust me TS, five strings are really, the only way to go.
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The band with the asian guy? Haha, yea, no offense or anything, but dream theatre's kind of a joke. Pseudo-prog metal bands like dream theatre take away from the amazing, prog gods like btbam. That crazy chinese guy in dream theatre can barely even play. Leave bass playing to the truly brilliant players, like cliff burton.

Trust me TS, five strings are really, the only way to go.



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The band with the asian guy? Haha, yea, no offense or anything, but dream theatre's kind of a joke. Pseudo-prog metal bands like dream theatre take away from the amazing, prog gods like btbam. That crazy chinese guy in dream theatre can barely even play. Leave bass playing to the truly brilliant players, like cliff burton.

Trust me TS, five strings are really, the only way to go.


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