Poll: Do you think that the God switch can be turned on once turned off?
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View poll results: Do you think that the God switch can be turned on once turned off?
Yes, you can believe in God again.
117 52%
No, I think it stays that way.
45 20%
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Voters: 227.
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#1
Can you go back to believing in God (if at all you did since you remember thought), once you've pulled the God switch to 'off' in your head? Is it possible, and has anyone ever done it?
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#4
When I went to church more regularly, every once in a while there'd be a special sermon/speaker/whatever, and at least two or three of them had flipped it back on, and used that as a talking point for whatever they were talking about.

It's possible, but pretty uncommon, I'd imagine.
#6
Not likely, but it happens sometimes.
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#7
In my years on this planet amongst its people, I've learned many things, but none so well as the fickle nature of man.

Short answer? Yes. Why? Because people don't generally know what they want or why, and a moment's suffering/success is enough to blame/attribute to a god.
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#8
You'd have pretty shitty faith if you just changed your mind every now and then.
God probably wouldn't appreciate that and you will have wasted your life with religion just to be sent to Hell.
Or not...whatever
#9
I think it's down to the person and if they are open to it... if you aren't well then it might take a miracle...
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#10
if you are an atheist for all the wrong reasons then yes, i can see how you can be persuaded back into being a theist.
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#12
I'm sure it's happened, but I can't think of one reason why it would.

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#13
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#14
It's a classic story plot, priest/person loses his/her faith, goes on an adventure, bad stuff happens but somehow the priest/person rises to the occasion and saves the day which in turn causes him/her to regain his/her faith again.

I should imagine that some religious people actualy do occasionaly lose their faith and regain it again at a later date, otherwise, what would Hollywood base it off?

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if you are an atheist for all the wrong reasons then yes, i can see how you can be persuaded back into being a theist.


Just out of interest, what would you call a "wrong reason" for being an atheist?
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#16
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#17
I believe it's possible. Mine has never been flipped on though, and I can't see it ever doing so. Doesn't mean it can't be true for others. A truly traumatic experience can oftentimes lead an individual to god during a time of extreme lows. I guess it's just human nature.
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#21
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Just out of interest, what would you call a "wrong reason" for being an atheist?


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it being the "cool" thing to do

that's 2 bad reasons off the top of my head
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#22
I don't think so, at least, not for me. It probably depends on the reason for not believing. Someone who says "The world is too cruel for any kind of loving god to exist" can easily have their faith restored, but someone who makes the decision on a logical basis would have a hard time believing.
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#23
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Just out of interest, what would you call a "wrong reason" for being an atheist?
I'm not trying to generalize all atheists here, but I've met plenty of atheists who exhibit similar anti-societal tendencies, and most of those who I've met only seem to deny the existence of a god because it's contrary to the norm. These people are also completely ignorant when it comes to religion in the first place, so they can't say it's their knowledge that led them to atheism. Many of these people seem to think they're smarter than they actually are.

But then you have the sensible atheists, who don't have APD and do know the rhyme to their reason. I've just met far less of them.
#24
Yes. I was in a bad car accident last year. I've gone to church my whole life but had recently stopped believing. I walked away from wrapping my car around a telephone pole at 45 mph with scratches on my face and hands. The pole hit my drivers door and smashed it up to my chest. The police officer said that I should've broken most of my ribs on my left side. The cop even said that if I don't believe in God, I should because there had to of been someone up there that cared about me. It sounds corny, but there had to of been someone watching over me or something to walk away from that.
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#25
If their mind is as easy to manipulate as a switch is, then yes.
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Yes. I was in a bad car accident last year. I've gone to church my whole life but had recently stopped believing. I walked away from wrapping my car around a telephone pole at 45 mph with scratches on my face and hands. The pole hit my drivers door and smashed it up to my chest. The police officer said that I should've broken most of my ribs on my left side. The cop even said that if I don't believe in God, I should because there had to of been someone up there that cared about me. It sounds corny, but there had to of been someone watching over me or something to walk away from that.

God works in mysterious ways. Ways that are mysteriously similar to random chance.

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#27
Guys, I thought we ran out of chips, but when I checked, we still had chips. There had to of been someone watching over me or something to walk away from that with chips.
#28
I used to be an atheist, about 4 years ago I got into a wreck that I should not have been able to walk away from, that kicked it back in for me and its stuck with ever since.
#29
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Yes. I was in a bad car accident last year. I've gone to church my whole life but had recently stopped believing. I walked away from wrapping my car around a telephone pole at 45 mph with scratches on my face and hands. The pole hit my drivers door and smashed it up to my chest. The police officer said that I should've broken most of my ribs on my left side. The cop even said that if I don't believe in God, I should because there had to of been someone up there that cared about me. It sounds corny, but there had to of been someone watching over me or something to walk away from that.


So if someone gets into an awful wreck and dies a long painful death, does that mean someone up there doesn't give a fuck about them? Or perhaps hates them?
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#30
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teen angst
it being the "cool" thing to do

that's 2 bad reasons off the top of my head


I see your point, but isn't that putting atheism in a catigory of a fashionable 'label'.
To my mind, someone who calls themselves an atheist just because it's fashionable to do so without at least attempting to reason why they don't believe in the existence of gods isn't actualy an atheist.

That said, yeah, I suppose that makes it a "wrong reason" for being an atheist.

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I'm not trying to generalize all atheists here, but I've met plenty of atheists who exhibit similar anti-societal tendencies, and most of those who I've met only seem to deny the existence of a god because it's contrary to the norm.

How is denying the existence of a god contrary to the norm? No one is born with a theism of any kind, religion is cultural, it's something that's learned not something that's naturaly occuring.

And besides, I'm sure there are lots of gods that you don't believe exist, essentially making you an atheist towards those gods. Are your beliefs of the non-existence of these other gods contrary to the norm?

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So if someone gets into an awful wreck and dies a long painful death, does that mean someone up there doesn't give a fuck about them? Or perhaps hates them?


That's the same logic that the Westrbo Baptist Church use.
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#31
I'd say a wrong reason for being an atheist is thinking God doesn't exist just because he's evil and there's suffering in the world. That wouldn't mean he doesn't exist, just that if he does he's a prick.
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#32
First and foremost, Obama is a cactus.

I've gone back and forth numerous times. In large group settings, or in online conversations it's easy for me to denounce a god or any deity. But for some reason as I find myself alone and submerge in thoughts, I just feel as if there is something greater out there. I understand and accept evolution and science but the fact that I'm a living, breathing, thinking being just perplexes me.

EDIT : I also think that the existence of "evil" in the world is not a reason to disregard a deity. If you believe in a God you must believe in a Devil as well....
#33
yeah maybe if crystal meth is involved
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#34
You can always believe in stupid old shit if you should so desire.

That's why we have God Warrior and hipsters. (because 50%+0.001% = extra cool & must have)
#35
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I've gone back and forth numerous times. In large group settings, or in online conversations it's easy for me to denounce a god or any deity. But for some reason as I find myself alone and submerge in thoughts, I just feel as if there is something greater out there. I understand and accept evolution and science but the fact that I'm a living, breathing, thinking being just perplexes me.



This, I know that I threw the concept of any entities besides humans in the dumpster from hearing religious people talk.

However, the older I get the weirder I find it that the universe and people were created by absolutely nothing, it just happens over what we call time, which is relative in of itself.

I still believe that looking for a single religion of pure or absolute truth and treasure, or more dangerously, believing you found it, is the least useful way to seek answers to these matters.
#36
I've never really been religious and I highly doubt I could ever be a committed religious person in my life.
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If you believe in a God you must believe in a Devil as well....

Not necessarily, there are, and have historicaly been, many cultures that have a form of religion but don't believe in a 'devil' figure.

According to early Judaism for instance, Satan (or 'ha-Satan' "the opposer" as he was known) was under God's control and couldn't act without God's permission, meaning that Satan himself wasn't actualy evil but simply carrying out God's instruction. An example of this view of Satan can be found in the Book of Job where Satan is a member of the divine council, "the sons of God" who are subservient to God. In the Book of Job Satan is charged by God to tempt humans and to report back to God all who go against His decrees.
He tempted Job under God's orders, so that would necessitate any "evil" in the act of temptation as coming from God himself, but considering that God is considered as containing no evil, then the evil must originate with the humans who let themselves be tempted.

It's always possible to consider "evil" as a purely man made product, atheists do it all the time.
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Not necessarily, there are, and have historicaly been, many cultures that have a form of religion but don't believe in a 'devil' figure.

According to early Judaism for instance, Satan (or 'ha-Satan' "the opposer" as he was known) was under God's control and couldn't act without God's permission, meaning that Satan himself wasn't actualy evil but simply carrying out God's instruction. An example of this view of Satan can be found in the Book of Job where Satan is a member of the divine council, "the sons of God" who are subservient to God. In the Book of Job Satan is charged by God to tempt humans and to report back to God all who go against His decrees.
He tempted Job under God's orders, so that would necessitate any "evil" in the act of temptation as coming from God himself, but considering that God is considered as containing no evil, then the evil must originate with the humans who let themselves be tempted.

It's always possible to consider "evil" as a purely man made product, atheists do it all the time.


TL DR ; Kinda like The Devil is a servant to God who tempts the world and reports back who buys into it? Interesting...

That's true. You can consider both "good" and "evil" as purely man made. But I encounter so many Atheists who point out Natural Disasters / Death by murder,accident etc as a reason to why God does not exist.
#39
I say God doesn't exist because there is no empirical evidence to support it. I have no faith in a superior being and if I had a belief it's that one day everything will be explained by science. Whether that be in 10 years or a million. I think that humans will eventually leave this planet, ready to ruin a perfectly good galaxy!
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