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#1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15345511

Or so our lawyers say

during the hot and sweltering summer of 1776, members of the second Continental Congress travelled to Philadelphia to discuss their frustration with royal rule. By 4 July, America's founding fathers approved a simple document penned by Jefferson that enumerated their grievances and announced themselves a sovereign nation.
Called the Declaration of Independence, it was a blow for freedom, a call to war, and the founding of a new empire.
It was also totally illegitimate and illegal.



This could potentially turn racist, but do you fellows have to say on the matter?

I found it quite amusing tbh, and don't see what ramifications there could be whatever is found in a court of law.
#2
inb4 an american uses the word 'freedom'.
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#3
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inb4 an american uses the word 'freedom'.


It's part of my liberty to say freedom.
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#4
The Constitution was a byproduct of the political superstructure which sprung from an economy based upon the exploitation of predominantly African slaves. The Constitution was a document produced by a slave-owning group of radicals determined to cement their own political positions.
#6
No shit it was 'illegal,' wasn't the whole revolution 'illegal' from the British point of view?
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#7
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Does this mean that Britain technically still owns the US?

The British would have to buy it back from China.
#10
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Wait, so do the English want America back?


No, we really, really, really don't.
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#11
What reprecussions could that have?

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#12
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No shit it was 'illegal,' wasn't the whole revolution 'illegal' from the British point of view?

This.
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#13
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No, we really, really, really don't.

Then all this is just butthurtness.
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#14
It was also signed on August 2nd, not July 4th. And whether it would be illegal then like it would be now is a different story. And either way, we all fought and died to ensure our freedom and it was granted to us.
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#16
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Then all this is just butthurtness.


But you Americans are the only ones who care about the War of Independance
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#17
With legal aid services being massacred as they are, you'd have thought the lawyers would have found something better to do than discussing the legal providence of a few old bits of paper.
#18
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It was also signed on August 2nd, not July 4th. And whether it would be illegal then like it would be now is a different story. And either way, we all fought and died to ensure our freedom and it was granted to us.


You did not.
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#19
Quote by kurt_cobain9
It was also signed on August 2nd, not July 4th. And whether it would be illegal then like it would be now is a different story. And either way, we all fought and died to ensure our freedom and it was granted to us.


Nailed it.
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#20
So what about the rest of the British colonies, like India, Australia and Egypt? Do they still belong to GB?

Also, Britain only owned the original 13 colonial states, not all of the US, and if America has to sacrifice the east coast to get rid of New Jersey, I say so be it.
#21
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You did not.


you are right, but i didn't live in that period, now did I?
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#23
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But you Americans are the only ones who care about the War of Independance

If it didn't exist I wouldn't have had to learn about it in US History

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#24
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inb4 an american uses the word 'freedom'.



mfw a Brit talks about "freedom." How's it feel to have censored internet and gun restrictions, bro?
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#25
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So what about the rest of the British colonies, like India, Australia and Egypt? Do they still belong to GB?

Also, Britain only owned the original 13 colonial states, not all of the US, and if America has to sacrifice the east coast to get rid of New Jersey, I say so be it.

Nah, Britain's Empire was disbanded (right word?) sometime after the war.
Just search for the 'Kashmir War' and you'll get an idea of what the results were

Btw, I'm not sure Britain wants America anymore
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#26
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mfw a Brit talks about "freedom." How's it feel to have censored internet and gun restrictions, bro?


Censored internet? Gun restrictions feel brilliant. I enjoy being able to walk out of my house without the need to carry a gun.

EDIT: Just so you know, we don't have censored internet..
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#27
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mfw a Brit talks about "freedom." How's it feel to have censored internet and gun restrictions, bro?


agreed
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#28
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my point exactly.

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mfw a Brit talks about "freedom." How's it feel to have censored internet and gun restrictions, bro?

Safer than america.
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#29
It's so I can keep mah big guns! Not like them herpy derpy limey brits! sdfgblnfgsfdgkjn!
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Safer than america.


Present your evidence.
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#31
Oh nice, a Europe vs America thread. I was just heading out but this is gonna be better.
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#33
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Censored internet? Gun restrictions feel brilliant. I enjoy being able to walk out of my house without the need to carry a gun.

EDIT: Just so you know, we don't have censored internet..



You're very uninformed.
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#34
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Present your evidence.

Get on Omegle and I'll show you my 'evidence'.

e.g. suck my dick.
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#35
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You're very uninformed.


You claim Britain has internet censorship. You're one to talk.
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#36
mfw a Brit says they don't want America back anyway. How's that story go about the fox and the sour grapes?
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#37
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No, we really, really, really don't.

Good, because I want to be able to walk in the store and buy human centipede 2. And I like not having to "opt in" for internet porn.

#39
I doubt that 'censored internet' thing is going to fall through, seems like they'd be abusing our rights. Definitely get some protests as a result.
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#40
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Good, because I want to be able to walk in the store and buy human centipede 2.


Why would you want to do that?

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And I like not having to "opt in" for internet porn.



My dad'll opt in anyway.

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