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I'm not too sure on the correct term. Thread inspired by the recent interview.

When a man gets a sex change to become a woman, or vice versa, do you think it's appropriate to insult them, rip on them, whatever?

Or if a person cross dresses, or if they emotionally/psychologically feel like the opposite gender etc


Personally, I find it's their choice, they do whatever they want.

Basically, do you think it's wrong to do this? Do you think they deserve the hate they get?
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#2
Wasn't there a tranny thread a little while ago?
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Yup, hell I assault women who look a bit manly just to be safe.
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It's not appropriate no matter what they do. It's none of my business, I have no place to judge.
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#7
I've said it before but meh... People should always have the freedom to behave how they choose to as long as it isn't affecting anyone else. This is just another one of those cases. Anyone who 'rips' on people for making their own choices is a dick and needs to grow up.
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You must be assaulting people all day then.


You know, since you live in Scotland.
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When a man gets a sex change to become a woman, or vice versa, do you think it's appropriate to insult them, rip on them, whatever?
There's no one on this Earth whose choices it isn't appropriate to rip on. However
Personally, I find it's their choice, they do whatever they want.

Those people don't choose to feel they've been the victim of some cosmic mistake that put them in a wrongly sexed body.

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#11
I know a girl who claims to be transgendered. It's a recent thing but it actually makes a lot of sense. She's always acted much more male than female.

It's their choice to get a sex change or inhabit the gender role they feel best in. Not my place to say it's right or wrong.
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It's never appropriate to insult anyone.

I don't think it is either. But some people just do


Those people don't choose to feel they've been the victim of some cosmic mistake that put them in a wrongly sexed body.

I'm just saying it's their choice to act how they do/do what they want
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#13
male to female transsexuals are super hot if they actual look like an actual girl.
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I'm just saying it's their choice to act how they do/do what they want

In exactly the same way that it's a gay dude's choice to suck off other men. Sure you can choose to live the other way, but it just doesn't feel right.

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I know a girl who claims to be transgendered. It's a recent thing but it actually makes a lot of sense. She's always acted much more male than female.

It's their choice to get a sex change or inhabit the gender role they feel best in. Not my place to say it's right or wrong.

It is your responsibility to accept it though
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There's no one on this Earth whose choices it isn't appropriate to rip on. However

Those people don't choose to feel they've been the victim of some cosmic mistake that put them in a wrongly sexed body.

Not all TG people identify as the other gender. Do you think it's OK to insult someone for cross dressing just because they enjoy it?
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In exactly the same way that it's a gay dude's choice to suck off other men. Sure you can choose to live the other way, but it just doesn't feel right.


But if it feels right, then it's right?

If a (gay) male grows up trying to be attracted to women, and then looks at men, it feels right to be attracted to the man other than the female.
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#18
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It's never appropriate to insult anyone.


Not true.

In this case, though, of course not.

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He doesn't have to accept shit. It's his choice entirely to react how he wants to react. I should hope it's in a non-bigoted sense, and really hope he doesn't act out if he doesn't agree with it, but people can think whatever they want to think.
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It is your responsibility to accept it though

Well yea, I accept it. I volunteered to take that girl to an LGBT event two hours away because that shit never happens here. I met a guy who was in the process of becoming a woman. If he feels better as a woman then I can't see a reason why he shouldn't be.

I took that girl because she wouldn't be able to go to anything like that for a while and I wanted to improve the turnout for the event.

EDIT: I can respectfully disagree with people. I wouldn't say it's my responsibility to accept, but I do try to keep my mind open and such because I see it as a positive thing.
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#20
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I'm not too sure on the correct term. Thread inspired by the recent interview.

When a man gets a sex change to become a woman, or vice versa, do you think it's appropriate to insult them, rip on them, whatever?


Absolutely not. Why the hell would that be ok?
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#21
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Not all TG people identify as the other gender. Do you think it's OK to insult someone for cross dressing just because they enjoy it?

Transgender =/= crossdressing

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Transgender =/= crossdressing

Yes, it does. Transgender means any kind of gender-deviant behavior. Transexual is someone who actually identifies as the other gender, whether they've elected to transition or not.
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He doesn't have to accept shit. It's his choice entirely to react how he wants to react. I should hope it's in a non-bigoted sense, and really hope he doesn't act out if he doesn't agree with it, but people can think whatever they want to think.

People can think whatever they want to think, I've got no power over that beyond my limited ability to persuade.

You ought not to be a homophobe, you ought not to be a racist. Anyone should be able to hold any number of unsavoury opinions without prosecution, this should be granted. However, you still ought to hold particular beliefs and opinions and ought not to hold others.
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#25
It's not any different from ripping on anyone else, really. We're all people who make choices in life, and there are always going to be people who bag on that because they don't agree with it.

My personal opinion is that as long as they're not hurting anyone or disrupting anyone else's life in a negative way, who cares what they're doing? We've all got a right to be happy, as long as it's not at someone else's expense, I don't see the problem.
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#26
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People can think whatever they want to think, I've got no choice over that beyond my limited ability to persuade.

You ought not to be a homophobe, you ought not to be a racist. Anyone should be able to hold any number of unsavoury opinions without prosecution, this should be granted. However, you still ought to hold particular beliefs and opinions and ought not to hold others.


Pretty much, that's all I was saying.
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#29
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Yes, it does. Transgender means any kind of gender-deviant behavior. Transexual is someone who actually identifies as the other gender, whether they've elected to transition or not.

Why should cross-dressing be considered gender-deviant? Ever notice that it only applies to men? Women can wear pretty much whatever as long as it keeps their naughty bits covered (whole other worm-can). They can wear make-up or not. Yet men who exercise the same rights are suddenly faggy (not your word or sentiment, just a general one)? That's a problem with a hypermasculine society, man.

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When is it ok to be an insulting bigot?

That's why I just come to UG to rip on the damn trannies
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oh man, i just wish Nufassa was here for this, but she's banned.
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Why should cross-dressing be considered gender-deviant? Ever notice that it only applies to men? Women can wear pretty much whatever as long as it keeps their naughty bits covered (whole other worm-can). They can wear make-up or not. Yet men who exercise the same rights are suddenly faggy (not your word or sentiment, just a general one)? That's a problem with a hypermasculine society, man.



All I read was blah blah blah chicks think I'm soooo foward thinking and attractive nao dat i es open mindededed.
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All I read was blah blah blah chicks think I'm soooo foward thinking and attractive nao dat i es open mindededed.

Right, soooo many women are just clamorin over the dudes in dresses

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Right, soooo many women are just clamorin over the dudes in dresses



What's wrong with guys in dresses? You're such a hater you know. Men have the right to wear dresses and look good.


I hate that dresses are deemed a 'womanly' thing. That's so sexist.


Why can't I wear a dress and be deemed attractive?


You people are so ass backwards.
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Why should cross-dressing be considered gender-deviant? Ever notice that it only applies to men? Women can wear pretty much whatever as long as it keeps their naughty bits covered (whole other worm-can). They can wear make-up or not. Yet men who exercise the same rights are suddenly faggy (not your word or sentiment, just a general one)? That's a problem with a hypermasculine society, man.

I remember a thread recently about a female UGer getting shit from her family for dressing up as a man. Not just wearing manly clothes but, like, actually presenting as one.
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What's wrong with guys in dresses? You're such a hater you know. Men have the right to wear dresses and look good.


I hate that dresses are deemed a 'womanly' thing. That's so sexist.


Why can't I wear a dress and be deemed attractive?


You people are so ass backwards.

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Basically, do you think it's wrong to do this? Do you think they deserve the hate they get?


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